• Opinion: Final Fantasy XV is a Bro Fest and I’m Okay With That


    As we've heard, Final Fantasy XV will have an all-male party. Some people have taken offense to this. Although on my own reflection of this news, that doesn’t seem to bother me. Here, in convenient list form, is why.

    It appears to be a deliberate decision made with full awareness of the implications.

    Final Fantasy XV’s main cast is all male, and it was a conscious decision made by both of the game’s directors. Despite this, Director Hajime Tabata admits that “it’s not healthy to have a bias in genders.”

    Tabata said, “The party members being all men was something that [former director] Tetsuya Nomura had kept as a very important element of this journey. He wanted to depict a story in which a group of men, a group of friends, journey throughout the world. So that’s something that I kept inVFinal Fantasy XC.”
    This is important. Contrary to Gamergate propaganda, there are no evil women who want to censor games. Not me, not Anita Sarkeesian, not Zoe Quinn. We just want developers to think about what they’re doing and not auto-fill their games with generic straight, white male characters. If Tabata and Nomura want to make a male-bonding car adventure, that’s cool with me.

    They are not our characters.

    My preference for self-created characters isn’t something I’m quiet about. Outside of the MMO offerings, I’ve never felt that any Final Fantasy character was mine. They’re not even existing characters put in your care, like Geralt in The Witcher. You may be able to choose their gear and skills, but you have very little control over their actions. In a typical FF game, you may as well be watching a movie for all the agency you have when it comes to the behaviour of the characters. I’ve said before that I have no problem with well-developed, well-written male characters. I just don’t like grunting bald bloke with no personality, especially in RPGs. I have no expectation of character control in a Final Fantasy game, why should this one be any different?

    The playable party is not the whole cast.

    Okay, the party is going to be made up of guys. I don’t believe for a second that there won’t be plenty of female NPCs.

    I can give Square-Enix the benefit of the doubt.

    Final Fantasy games usually have a diverse, generally well-written cast. Previous titles in the series have included female protagonists or entirely female parties. This isn’t Piranha Bytes doing another game in which women are treated like poo or entirely absent. When a developer decides to go with an all-male party after decades of decent representation, I’m happy to give them a pass.

    Now, this single piece of news doesn’t really say much about gender in FFXV. It could be horribly misogynist, it could have the greatest female characters of all time. We don’t know. Either way, I’m happy to wait for the game to find out for myself.

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    Comments 49 Comments
    1. Freya's Avatar
      Freya -
      That's just cheating as there is no"lead" characters in those ones
    1. Loony BoB's Avatar
      Loony BoB -
      Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
      And if you don't consider direct sequels? There is just no way a main FF game (not a sequel) would ever feature an all-female cast and that's part of what people's gripe is about. You can throw out any number of combinations to show that SE has a pretty even distribution of male to female cast (and they do a good job there) but that doesn't change the fact that having an all male cast for a main numbered entry is significant. Sequels have much less hype and give Square much more freedom to experiment and it is not a coincidence that all of the female-heavy games have been sequels.
      I disagree that they would never have an all female cast, I can see them doing such a thing. Whether they do or not depends on whether they feel it's right.

      I don't think it's an issue that there is an all male cast because I genuinely don't think there is any sexism involved in the decision. If anything, they are being brave to not have females, considering how massive the appeal is for FF fans to have a female playable character.

      To my knowledge, this is the first time it's happened for FF and I don't think it should be turned into a Big Deal. It's one thing to say that females should be fairly represented in gaming, it's another thing to say that you can't have an all-male cast in gaming.
    1. Fox's Avatar
      Fox -
      Ironically, giving them too much grief over the all male cast could actually prevent an all female class in the future.

      "OK, so for XVI we have these 5 party members. We wanted to explore a theme of sisterhood, so they're all women, and they-"
      "Woah. Woah. Woah."
      "...yes?"
      "Remember the **** we got last time for doing that with dudes? No more creative license for you buddy, 50/50 split."
      ""
    1. Del Murder's Avatar
      Del Murder -
      Fine by me.

      And yeah, this isn't really a big deal, just something to talk about on the internet. Would you rather we not talk about FFXV?
    1. Lone Wolf Leonhart's Avatar
      Lone Wolf Leonhart -
      Quote Originally Posted by Freya View Post
      That's just cheating as there is no"lead" characters in those ones
      To be fair, Shantotto and now Y'shtola are the representatives of their games whenever the series cross pollinates
    1. Mirage's Avatar
      Mirage -
      Shantotto is extremely far away from something you would call a lead.

      Each main storyline might have something resembling a lead, but shantotto's not that person in any of them.

      She's just an npc questgiver with an (very) amusing personality. A long time after the game's launch, she got her own tiny add-on, because of her existing popularity.
    1. Loony BoB's Avatar
      Loony BoB -
      Interestingly, when you look at FFXIV, the head of each starting city seems to be a female and the head of the Scions (the "guild" you belong to, for those that don't know XIV well) is a female. There are a few guys here and there in leadership positions (although Ul'dah is headed by a female, the general is a male - and I think Ishgard's religious group will be headed by a male) but they aren't terribly numerous.

      Can't remember much of XI's leads.
    1. Mirage's Avatar
      Mirage -
      Isn't hornguy in charge of gridania? Also, the sultana is kind of like in a power struggle with some of the other guys there. I guess she is the official leader, but things are more complicated behind the scenes.
    1. Loony BoB's Avatar
      Loony BoB -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
      Isn't hornguy in charge of gridania? Also, the sultana is kind of like in a power struggle with some of the other guys there. I guess she is the official leader, but things are more complicated behind the scenes.
      Ah, I thought horngirl was the leader. Could be wrong though. I'm more thinking of the companies - I mean, when you see the portraits, the girl leaders are in their portraits and the guy leader (Ul'dah) has to share with the midget princess lady with the annoying voice.
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