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Mirage
05-09-2014, 09:53 PM
The males were way better done than the females
Shlup
05-09-2014, 10:29 PM
Arrested Development is inane garbage. Arrested Westeros is pretty funny though.
So far a 'king' has died every season:
Season 1 - King Robert
Season 2 - King Renly
Season 3 - King Robb
Season 4 - King Joffrey
Does that mean Stannis, Balon Greyjoy, or Tommen will bite it in Season 5?
The show is so close to being caught up to the books that it's hard for me to be smug about knowing what's going to happen next. :(
The Man
05-09-2014, 10:43 PM
Arrested Development is inane garbage.no u :@
Madame Adequate
05-10-2014, 01:00 AM
So this is insane http://www.buzzfeed.com/ailbhemalone/this-make-up-artist-transformed-herself-into-four-game-of-th
Pretty decent, although I've seen better.
Please show us, because I think that's amazing so something even better would be mindblowing!
Arrested Development is inane garbage.
And out of absolutely nowhere to snatch the "Most Wrong Poster" trophy!
Shlup
05-10-2014, 02:52 AM
I tried to like it. I really did.
Lone Wolf Leonhart
05-12-2014, 04:35 AM
This episode was amazing.
I almost got goosebumps from Tyrion's speech.
Theon has stockholm syndrome, like hardcore.
So was it Little Finger that poisoned Joffrey, then? If I was following the story right, I think the poison was from the necklace that he gave the guy that escorted Sansa out of the capital. Correct me if i'm wrong. I thought that's what was implied.
The Man
05-12-2014, 04:48 AM
No, it was the Queen of Thorns who poisoned Joffrey. Or rather, she was behind the plot, but Tyrion was unwittingly the one who handed him the poison. See here (http://imgur.com/a/2DtPH) for a close examination of what happened.
Shiny
05-12-2014, 05:23 AM
This episode was so good. Finally some action! Everything Tyrion said was just wow. "I wish I was the monster you all think I am." Who is going to fight though? His father?
Del Murder
05-12-2014, 06:25 AM
My guess is that his father will name the captain of the kingsguard to fight for the crown, which is of course Jamie. Tyrion will probably have to fight for himself if the thing even happens.
Good end to the episode as the trial was awesome as expected. I didn't care much for the first part of the episode that focused on Theon and Stannis. I really don't care much about them.
blackmage_nuke
05-12-2014, 06:57 AM
If Jaime quits the Kingsguard now Tyrion should be able to shotgun him as his Champion. Then Tywin will be forced to choose a weaker champion since he doesnt want his heir to die.
Also I cant remember if it's just because of Sirio in the show or if it was actually mentioned in the books but I thought the majority of Braavosi (and people across the sea from Westeros) were darker skinned or Braavos was atleast the most mixed race of cities. If that's so then I really hope they dont whitewash all the speaking parts in Braavos.
Agent Proto
05-12-2014, 07:47 AM
Good episode! And the next episode will look to be awesome with that fight between Oberyn and the Mountain. (God, I've been waiting for that since episode one!!)
This wasn't said in the show yet! - Psychotic
Lone Wolf Leonhart
05-12-2014, 07:54 AM
Quite the speech there, Shae.
http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/7119bf3aaf54533e4ced4948d9e25d3f/http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww351/pvn_2p2/u-mad___camron.jpg
Psychotic
05-12-2014, 08:58 AM
Everything has a consequence, and while I've loved Tyrion running his mouth at every single uppity and clueless fucker in King's Landing, my God did it ever come back to bite him in the ass. The way he just snapped was stunning, unlimited love for Dinklage.
Also fuck you Shae. The books had none of the "wah wah you're trying to send me away :(" crap. She is just a lying backstabbing whore, exactly what she says she is.
Quindiana Jones
05-12-2014, 09:10 AM
I swear I remember a video trailer for this series having the participants of the fight quite prominently displayed.
Psychotic
05-12-2014, 10:05 AM
They were covered in armour and it was only a quick flash. Besides, some people don't even watch trailers because of potential spoilers. So use the tags, eh? No harm in it!
Quindiana Jones
05-12-2014, 11:09 AM
Ah, it wasn't a complaint about the spoiler. Just checking I didn't imagine it, or if I imagined it in greater detail than it had.
It would be awesome if it goes as in blackmage_nuke's post; Jaime quitting and being called in as Tyrion's champion. :excited:
Shaibana
05-12-2014, 11:22 AM
GODDAMMIT SHAE, SHUT THE ^%#$ UP D:
omg omg omg, im all histerical
everything went well untill that smurf opened her mouth :(
ow god ow god ow god..
Dany sure get a slap in the face from that rich kid
Mirage
05-12-2014, 11:25 AM
wtf is shae the dumbest woman in westeros or what
if dwarfie ends up dying i'll stop watching
blackmage_nuke
05-12-2014, 06:12 PM
My guess is that his father will name the captain of the kingsguard to fight for the crown, which is of course Jamie.
I dont think Tywin would risk it. The guy has one hand and as far as I know trial by combat is to the death.
Shiny
05-12-2014, 06:26 PM
This is the perfect set-up for her to die by his hands. Her betrayal is probably enough for him and I wouldn't believe up until that point in the trial that he or she would be that vengeful. Lovers scorned.
Rantz
05-12-2014, 07:46 PM
Awesome episode. Intense stuff, particularly at the end.
Also I cant remember if it's just because of Sirio in the show or if it was actually mentioned in the books but I thought the majority of Braavosi (and people across the sea from Westeros) were darker skinned or Braavos was atleast the most mixed race of cities. If that's so then I really hope they dont whitewash all the speaking parts in Braavos.
I always got the sense that the Braavosi were among the whiter of the Essos people. Sort of corresponding to the Italy/Greece region in our world. Don't know if the book says differently and I just forgot, though.
Noctis Caelum
05-12-2014, 07:57 PM
Peter's acting. Holy smurf balls. Amazingggggggg.
This is the perfect set-up for her to die by his hands. Her betrayal is probably enough for him and I wouldn't believe up until that point in the trial that he or she would be that vengeful. Lovers scorned.
That spoiler itself is a spoiler. Non-book readers will see that and be like, DAFUQ?
blackmage_nuke
05-12-2014, 08:30 PM
This is the perfect set-up for her to die by his hands. Her betrayal is probably enough for him and I wouldn't believe up until that point in the trial that he or she would be that vengeful. Lovers scorned.
I actually think this makes it more likely for them to change it with "Oh I told her say those things or I would kill her" and then Tyrion has to go look for her instead of the other person he was looking for since Shae has so much audience appeal.
The Man
05-12-2014, 08:34 PM
If they made that change though then it would detract rather substantially from Tywin's loathsomeness and make Tyrion less justified in killing him. I mean it's possible they'd do it anyway but I dunno.
blackmage_nuke
05-12-2014, 08:50 PM
If they made that change though then it would detract rather substantially from Tywin's loathsomeness and make Tyrion less justified in killing him. I mean it's possible they'd do it anyway but I dunno.
Well they could go all out and say Tywin executed his first wife so theres no conflict of lovers, we can still hate Tywin and the audience can still druel over Shae
Lone Wolf Leonhart
05-12-2014, 08:58 PM
yo dawg I heard you like spoilers so I spoiler tagged while you spoiler tagged so you can spoiler tag while you spoiler tag.
Shaibana
05-12-2014, 09:03 PM
yo dawg I heard you like spoilers so I spoiler tagged while you spoiler tagged so you can spoiler tag while you spoiler tag.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7G6ciJUMuAk/TGOQMOWsMGI/AAAAAAAABZU/_K91q5OU6hw/s1600/yo+dawg+31.jpg
WELL, that was... an episode all right.
Madame Adequate
05-12-2014, 10:31 PM
By the Old Gods and the New that was an episode and a half
Carl the Llama
05-12-2014, 11:01 PM
WELL, that was... an episode all right.
http://i.imgur.com/cQwdP9j.jpg
:p
Shlup
05-12-2014, 11:21 PM
I miss Shae the pointless whore. Her being ten kinds of butthurt because she supposedly loves him in the show just makes her seem like an obnoxious idiot, and it frustrates me. Great scene, though I hate to see Tyrion lose. The rest of the storylines were meh.
magemasher
05-13-2014, 12:01 AM
Wow best episode since the wedding. Surely Bronn will fight for Tyrion again. Starting to like Prince Oberan, I think he knows more than he lets on, ah man this week is going to drag.......
Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World
05-13-2014, 12:18 AM
I totally thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I know that a lot of this season is going to be build up, and I've come to terms with that.
But the episode was fantastic. It really really swelly built a stage for future events. And Tyrion's speech at the end. I will be damned, it was fantastic.
Honestly, I'm not feeling the hype for this episode. It wasn't bad, but I personally don't feel it's as mind-blowing as everyone is making it out to be.
Next episode (?) with the Trial by Combat should be on point, though.
Freya
05-13-2014, 02:06 AM
http://i.imgur.com/COgpTri.jpg
Raistlin
05-13-2014, 03:43 AM
That was a great episode, with a fantastic ending. The trial was really well done, filled with Tywin's deviousness and Tyrion's excellent acting -- and even some good development between Oberyn and Varys -- all capped with that brilliant rant that ended with tensions at the peak. It's been a while since I've been as eager to see the next episode.
He definitely wants to be the man controlling the Iron Throne from behind the scenes and not actually be king. Pretty sure he says that in the first season in a conversation with Varys, I think.
Pretty sure he repeatedly states that he wants "it all" or "everything." I can wholly imagine him with a puppet on the throne, but the fact that he has come from nothing and created his own family crest shows desire to elevate himself and create a legacy. Tywin's not the only one fascinated with that, but I think Tywin is far more accepting of having someone else with the crown.
McLovin'
05-13-2014, 04:53 AM
The only way this episode could have been any better would be if a Tyrions clone gets called as a witness and testifies against himself.
Freya
05-13-2014, 06:13 AM
All I post are amusing images.
That's okay though...
http://i.imgur.com/8dFyy9Q.gif
Shlup
05-13-2014, 10:32 AM
That might be my favorite GoT gif yet. xD
Shaibana
05-13-2014, 10:45 AM
thats my role already, freya :P
Dr Unne
05-13-2014, 11:14 AM
The part with Theon's sister (I forget her name in the show) was silly and contrived. "Hope you can outrun these dogs!" and suddenly she's teleported onto a boat. They didn't chase her? They didn't have archers on the walls? What was the point of any of that? It showed us Theon is crazy, but we already knew. The Ironborn plotlines all feel tacked on for no reason.
The Tyrion scene was pretty good. In the book I always pictured Shae hamming it up for the crowd and really twisting the knife, I didn't feel that as much in the show. Maybe it's just the missing element of surprise. Maybe her actress never clicked for me. I've read a lot of reviews saying Dinklage deserves a medal for his acting in this episode, but I'm not sure I see it. He acted, that's his job. He pulled off being hurt and angry. Everyone else was good too though. I think Tywin and Jaime knock it out of the park every time they're on screen.
I'd watch a whole season of Ser Davos telling people what's up while Stannis stands around glowering.
Rantz
05-13-2014, 12:02 PM
I think that Tyrion scene was quite effectful, but it's probably as much thanks to good writing, directing and editing as it is thanks to Dinklage's acting.
Bolivar
05-13-2014, 08:28 PM
The part with Theon's sister (I forget her name in the show) was silly and contrived. "Hope you can outrun these dogs!" and suddenly she's teleported onto a boat. They didn't chase her? They didn't have archers on the walls? What was the point of any of that? It showed us Theon is crazy, but we already knew. The Ironborn plotlines all feel tacked on for no reason.
The Tyrion scene was pretty good. In the book I always pictured Shae hamming it up for the crowd and really twisting the knife, I didn't feel that as much in the show. Maybe it's just the missing element of surprise. Maybe her actress never clicked for me. I've read a lot of reviews saying Dinklage deserves a medal for his acting in this episode, but I'm not sure I see it. He acted, that's his job. He pulled off being hurt and angry. Everyone else was good too though. I think Tywin and Jaime knock it out of the park every time they're on screen.
I'd watch a whole season of Ser Davos telling people what's up while Stannis stands around glowering.
Agree with so many parts of this. I feel like Dinklage and Gillen's performances have become noticeably forced compared to what they did in the first season, probably since it's not their natural accent. Tywin, Jaime and Davos all did their thing though. Davos flipping numbers back on those bankers was just damn. And the other two just have some of the best scenes in the series imo. Most of it being original to the show, which makes it so confusing when they fail with utterly pointless scenes like the Greyjoy raid on the Dreadfort that never was.
Madame Adequate
05-13-2014, 09:06 PM
I've read a lot of reviews saying Dinklage deserves a medal for his acting in this episode, but I'm not sure I see it. He acted, that's his job.
And he's incredibly good at it and deserves enormous praise for how well he does his job? I mean he's not really just doing a job here, he's pretty much setting a bar for television acting, or at the very least matches the bar as set in shows like The Wire, Oz, and Deadwood. This is the role he's going to be remembered for, and whilst the director and writers deserve massive praise as well, that doesn't detract from how astoundingly good Dinklage is.
Just watched the episode. Wow. Eeeek. Holy trout. :excited:
Where Tyrion just snapped, that was perfect for me. Jaime and Tywin were excellent, too. And DROGON! :D
Oh, and the scene between Oberyn and Varys? I can't be the only one who loved that!?
I am SO excited for The Red Viper v The Mountain. I watch the show with 3 non book readers and they're all certain Tyrion is going to die and they're so sad. It makes it even more exciting to see their reactions.
Also, surely it's about time for the Wildlings to attack the wall? But I did want to see a bit more of the Thenns before they get killed off.
I really hope UnCat makes an appearance at the end of the season!
EDIT: also - Bravo, Sky Atlantic! Only 1 ad break? I am very impressed.
Dr Unne
05-13-2014, 11:55 PM
I've read a lot of reviews saying Dinklage deserves a medal for his acting in this episode, but I'm not sure I see it. He acted, that's his job.
And he's incredibly good at it and deserves enormous praise for how well he does his job? I mean he's not really just doing a job here, he's pretty much setting a bar for television acting, or at the very least matches the bar as set in shows like The Wire, Oz, and Deadwood. This is the role he's going to be remembered for, and whilst the director and writers deserve massive praise as well, that doesn't detract from how astoundingly good Dinklage is.
Oh I don't disagree, he's good. I watched some crappy sci-fi series recently on Netflix and it was a forceful reminder of how much better the acting is in this show than in most TV. I just didn't see the trial scene as significantly better than he's been this season / in past seasons.
Rantz
05-14-2014, 12:15 PM
jvHK6blDJaQ
Loony BoB
05-14-2014, 03:50 PM
Pretty much enjoyed every little bit of that, apart from the Greyjoy bit which was rather meh.
I agree that Tyrion made that episode his, he was incredible and really made you feel the emotion that ran through him. Tywin likewise. Varys and Oberyn were also really cool, I agree with Jess on that. And Davos is one of my favourites, definitely. It was interesting to see the Iron Bank for the first time.
Agent Proto
05-14-2014, 07:47 PM
https://24.media.tumblr.com/375fcb0b39d471ae5775da496a44a98c/tumblr_n5hlwyRcn91rtz922o1_500.jpg
https://24.media.tumblr.com/d204057c463f5efbf80ab4ed8d7dab10/tumblr_n5hlwyRcn91rtz922o2_500.jpg
Del Murder
05-14-2014, 08:58 PM
I agree that Shae in the show is terrible. I haven't gotten to her betrayal of Tyrion in the book yet but based on her book character it would make a lot more sense. I hope I see her head on a pike soon.
What is the bastard last name for children of Lannister lords? I've figured out all the others:
Stark = Snow
Tyrell = Flowers
Baratheon = Storm
Tully = Rivers
Martell = Sand
Greyjoy = Pyke
Lannister = ???
Shaibana
05-14-2014, 09:09 PM
since that country s famous for the gold, i guess the bastard names would be gold? xD
Psychotic
05-14-2014, 09:11 PM
Hill.
Also the Vale is Stone, as you didn't have it on your list, and it's Waters for the Crownlands.
Shaibana
05-14-2014, 09:17 PM
funny picture
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a5dAYMy_460s_v1.jpg
Rantz
05-14-2014, 09:31 PM
The bastard names aren't so much connected to the families as to the regions they govern (for example, Bolton's bastard is still Ramsay Snow), but yeah. I like the bastard names.
Psychotic
05-14-2014, 09:59 PM
He's Ramsay Bolton now :colbert:
The bastard names aren't so much connected to the families as to the regions they govern (for example, Bolton's bastard is still Ramsay Snow), but yeah. I like the bastard names.
I was just about to say this.
Robert Baratheon had a ton of kids with different bastard names, because they were born in different regions. It all depends on where the bastard was born. So in theory, a Lannister bastard could still be Snow if it was born in the North. But a bastard only has one of those names if their noble parent acknowledges them.
Del Murder
05-14-2014, 10:22 PM
Jon Snow wasn't born in the north, wasn't he?
No, but I guess since he was raised in the North, he went by Snow.
Shorty
05-15-2014, 03:50 AM
Holy trout, what an intense scene with the battle between Ramsay and Yara. Man, I keep feeling worse and worse for Theon. I disliked him quite during the first few seasons, but I feel so awful for him now. I can't imagine what it must be like to have fear cripple you so badly that when a rescue arrives you do not accept it.
The Danaerys scene seemed rather pointless. But I guess it opened up a segue for her to be spoken about in the council. I get the feeling that the dude begging for his father's bones has a trick up his sleeve somehow.
I love Varys more every time I see him. Same for Oberyn. I wasn't terribly fond of him at first, but I've grown to quite like him. His pure shock at Varys admitting to be asexual was hilarious xD
With the business with Shae being supposedly sent off, I almost didn't think they were going to bring her back. It was hard to watch her betray Tyrion so astoundingly. I loved them together before I knew what a backstabber she is :(
I wanted to see the trial by combat goddamnit that's what I've been waiting for all this time ;-;
What a lovely violin solo after such a dark scene! Went more or less how I saw it going as I read this particular part. I wasn't able to fully immerse myself in the scene due to things going on around me while I was watching, so I feel a bit robbed on that account. Still, all of the anger and frustration and hate was clear to see upon Tyrion's visage as he delivered his "wish I had done it" speech.
I'd watch a whole season of Ser Davos telling people what's up while Stannis stands around glowering.
A++++
Psychotic
05-15-2014, 06:43 AM
Jon Snow wasn't born in the north, wasn't he?Jon Sand just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Agent Proto
05-15-2014, 07:04 AM
https://31.media.tumblr.com/c3a96835d0cd45ca641298094c34c4a6/tumblr_n5gqqel0xM1sbqi0vo1_500.jpg
It's a good thing IKEA doesn't sell DIY Iron Thrones.
I finally got around to watching the episode this week. Damn. Just... damn.
Shlup
05-16-2014, 09:07 AM
These screencap "summaries" are pretty hilarious: episode 1 (http://imgur.com/a/H0wTs), 2 (http://imgur.com/a/XHTDr), 3 (http://captainofalltheships.tumblr.com/post/83476645707/game-of-thrones-season-4-episode-3), 4 (http://captainofalltheships.tumblr.com/post/84178235947/game-of-thrones-season-4-episode-4), 5 (http://captainofalltheships.tumblr.com/post/84880735587/game-of-thrones-season-4-episode-5), 6 (http://captainofalltheships.tumblr.com/post/85570249822/game-of-thrones-season-4-episode-6).
Possibly best part:
https://31.media.tumblr.com/1ddf5bfce83053159ff5d7abec4976c3/tumblr_inline_n5hiamBIKC1rnw7mz.jpg
https://31.media.tumblr.com/43ad9994d2efb3af8705fd0cc1ce9567/tumblr_inline_n5hiauPeNs1rnw7mz.jpg
https://31.media.tumblr.com/cc7eec224363f5a7fa26e4bcebc2b916/tumblr_inline_n5hib1djK01rnw7mz.jpg
https://31.media.tumblr.com/6379cefb0b4171beee3bd8a76d40bcaa/tumblr_inline_n5hibltp3S1rnw7mz.jpg
Funny pictures that spoil the end of Episode 6 if you haven't watched it yet (http://shaewolf-96.tumblr.com/post/85930017371/sherlockholmesisagirlsname-game-of-tags)
I died.
Shorty
05-18-2014, 01:31 AM
I just can't get enough of Arrested Westeros.
https://31.media.tumblr.com/5511b865f15a6a63772eeb0c655a3d12/tumblr_n5qu6zVjRd1qk2t5co1_500.jpg
Shorty
05-18-2014, 06:39 AM
WesterosCraft (http://imgur.com/a/zqtpz/)
seriously what the fuck
Del Murder
05-18-2014, 06:58 AM
People have too much time on their hands.
Shorty
05-18-2014, 08:51 PM
https://24.media.tumblr.com/b9b5dd2e94051b6d71a7f825f878ae19/tumblr_n3ina2HZ351rskuz9o1_500.png
Pedro Pascal & Gwendoline Christie at GoT Season 4 Press Conference in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil ~ April 4, 2014
Shaibana
05-18-2014, 09:02 PM
its weird seeing her so feminine :D i love it
Agent Proto
05-19-2014, 05:12 AM
it's good to see Hot Pie again :D
https://24.media.tumblr.com/3c774b5ef8130137ba9e29ca96350aa7/tumblr_n5t1rgNH3i1qgxyldo1_500.png
Freya
05-19-2014, 05:14 AM
Creepy kinda uncle to the rescue.
Pretty sure hot pie is the only character who has a happy ending in the whole series. Dude loves making pies and is doing so!
Psychotic
05-19-2014, 08:14 AM
Can't believe they did that so early, that's from Feast for Crows. I wish he'd said the correct line "only Cat" though. Still! God damn. God smurfing damn xD
We were all expecting it to be the fight and then they go and do that instead. smurfing awesome.
The Man
05-19-2014, 08:19 AM
Actually, that happened at the very end of A Storm of Swords. I'm pretty sure it was the very last chapter before the revelation of Un-Cat.
Psychotic
05-19-2014, 08:24 AM
I stand corrected! I read them all in one go and because that book had Sansa chapters I remembered it wrongly. If that's the case then christ, Storm of Swords was one hell of an epic book!
Still, the adventures of Brienne and Pod are definitely from Feast.
The Man
05-19-2014, 08:27 AM
Yeah, that sounds about right. And yeah, there's a reason Storm is the most highly regarded book in the series. So much epic shit goes down in that book.
blackmage_nuke
05-19-2014, 09:23 AM
I dont like the reasoning they gave for Jamie not to fight (because if he did fight then Cersei would have to chose someone to lose) but I guess they wrote themselves into a corner with him offering to give up the Kings Gaurd.
Shaibana
05-19-2014, 12:18 PM
Woah, what an episode!!
i was already praying for Sansa not to get pushed in...
but after he said ''i love only 1'' i already guessed what happened... exiting! what now? :D
Del Murder
05-19-2014, 02:46 PM
Aw, I was hoping to see Tyrion kill the Mountain with a sling.
Carl the Llama
05-19-2014, 04:02 PM
As much as I loath Littlefinger for screwing Ned over, that last scene was one of the highlights of the series for me... so sinister yet... awesome.
Freya
05-19-2014, 05:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/2PwXcRg.jpg
All Hail Hot Pie, First of his Name, Lord of the Oven, King of the Biscuits, and the Turnovers, and the Lemon Cakes, Protector of the Buffet, Breaker of Fasts.
Alive-Cat
05-19-2014, 06:06 PM
Oh dear oh dear, it's all gone a bit wrong for Robin :(
Rantz
05-19-2014, 06:39 PM
Another great episode despite not being the trial by combat. Has to be next episode, though. Has to be!
This season is bloody fantastic so far. Major action and very significant plot progression in pretty much every episode. :up:
Noctis Caelum
05-19-2014, 06:45 PM
http://giant.gfycat.com/RepulsiveEarnestDunnart.gif
Lols.
Dr Unne
05-19-2014, 07:57 PM
Was this the first time Littlefinger has ever shown emotion other than "smug grin" on his face?
I dont like the reasoning they gave for Jamie not to fight (because if he did fight then Cersei would have to chose someone to lose) but I guess they wrote themselves into a corner with him offering to give up the Kings Gaurd.
Pretty sure the reasoning he gave was that he sucks at fighting with his left hand and he would die.
Noctis Caelum
05-19-2014, 08:04 PM
Was this the first time Littlefinger has ever shown emotion other than "smug grin" on his face?
I dont like the reasoning they gave for Jamie not to fight (because if he did fight then Cersei would have to chose someone to lose) but I guess they wrote themselves into a corner with him offering to give up the Kings Gaurd.Pretty sure the reasoning he gave was that he sucks at fighting with his left hand and he would die.No. Betraying Ned was the first time.
Del Murder
05-19-2014, 08:14 PM
Another great episode despite not being the trial by combat. Has to be next episode, though. Has to be!
This season is bloody fantastic so far. Major action and very significant plot progression in pretty much every episode. :up:
I agree. Season 4 has been the most action-packed season and there's still 3 episodes left! Really the only boring part in last night's episode was when that dying farmer was ranting about who knows what, but even that scene ended in a surprise attack on the Hound. 'This day isn't going as well for you as you thought it would.' Hahaha.
Rantz
05-19-2014, 08:32 PM
That reminds me, I was surprised that they killed off Rorge and Biter, due to their gruesome (and arguably more effectful) little story later on. It's not a huge deal but it caught me off guard nonetheless.
I had forgotten about Oberyn vendetta against The Mountain so I was starting to wonder if Tyrion was going to have to fight him himself and in came Prince Oberyn!
Shaibana
05-19-2014, 10:05 PM
my guess is that Littlefinger now plans to take Sansa for himself? D:
Poor sansa, being thrown from 1 man to another.
from joffrey to Lorras, to Tyrion, to robin, to littlefinger
poor Jorah got another friendzoneslap in the face :P
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aqmMG1R_700b_v1.jpg
Loony BoB
05-19-2014, 10:42 PM
Dammit, was really hoping for combat by trial, but I guess that was a good surprise to go along with everything. Also, for the first time, we got to see two Stark girls feeling good about themselves in a single episode. Arya got to kill someone effectively and Sansa got a sense of relief that Joffrey was killed as revenge for her mother's death. The Starks have to take what they can get in this story...
magemasher
05-19-2014, 10:58 PM
Good to see hotpie, he loves his gravy hahaha. So now I would imagine Littlefinger will rule the eyrie(sp?) through Robin for a little while, I liked him untill he screwed Ned, now he's winning me over again the treacherous little snake.
The new Mountain is a beast, should be an interesting fight between him and Oberyn, cant believe we have to wait another week for that. Surprised Cersei didn't just have Bronn killed, he's so awesome though it would be a crime.
I'd like to add Melissandre is hot:kiss:
Madame Adequate
05-19-2014, 11:11 PM
The best episode of the season because Hot Pie was in it. The only way this episode can be topped is if we ever see Kovarro again. But we never shall :whimper:
Aulayna
05-19-2014, 11:13 PM
I need to watch season one again, that fake gruff voice Littlefinger has now does my head in. I'm almost certain he didn't sound that bad in the first season.
Agent Proto
05-19-2014, 11:45 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoCG0RYCEAEwcJw.jpg
Raistlin
05-19-2014, 11:49 PM
I need to watch season one again, that fake gruff voice Littlefinger has now does my head in. I'm almost certain he didn't sound that bad in the first season.
I noticed that too. I think they're trying to make him look/sound older? For some reason it seemed exaggerated for this episode -- maybe just because he was whispering or being more serious/emotional for once (as Unne pointed out, it was the first time in years that he didn't have a smirk on his face).
At least he didn't go all Dark Knight on us.
McLovin'
05-19-2014, 11:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpEjV0G40hM
I watch this every time and lol.
Madame Adequate
05-20-2014, 12:13 AM
I always hear complaints about Gillen's voice/accent and never understood it myself.
blackmage_nuke
05-20-2014, 12:31 AM
Was this the first time Littlefinger has ever shown emotion other than "smug grin" on his face?
I dont like the reasoning they gave for Jamie not to fight (because if he did fight then Cersei would have to chose someone to lose) but I guess they wrote themselves into a corner with him offering to give up the Kings Gaurd.
Pretty sure the reasoning he gave was that he sucks at fighting with his left hand and he would die.
Thats the reasoning he gave but he would only die if he actually had to fight someone good, Cersei would have to pick a weaker champion assuming she loves him more than she hates Tyrion.
Freya
05-20-2014, 01:36 AM
His voice DOES change. His accent,tone, or whatever depending on who he's around. It's part of his whole scheming thing I think. He changes how he speaks to reflect whatever situation.
Shiny
05-20-2014, 01:39 AM
http://giant.gfycat.com/RepulsiveEarnestDunnart.gif
Lols.
This, this is the best.
That woman was so stupid.n Also Sansa better get on that. This man is handsome as fuck.
Littlefinger and Sansa have been my OTP since I read Storm of Swords. It needs to happen.
Madame Adequate
05-20-2014, 04:49 AM
Yeah you can see Sansa's starting to see the merits in Littlefinger's way of doing things. I mean his conniving and murdering is the only reason she's now safe from Joffrey and that he is dead, and now again safe from Lysa Arryn, who might have even been a worse mom than Selyse Baratheon (on which note I do NOT like Melisandre's insistence on Shireen coming with them to the Wall). Sansa should tap dat and be Cat 2.0 (except maybe make fewer mistakes that doom her family) and rule the North and the Vale together.
Del Murder
05-20-2014, 04:53 AM
That would be a good plan if Littlefinger wasn't creepy as hell. Also Stannis is going to the Wall? When did we learn that?
Yeah you can see Sansa's starting to see the merits in Littlefinger's way of doing things. I mean his conniving and murdering is the only reason she's now safe from Joffrey and that he is dead, and now again safe from Lysa Arryn, who might have even been a worse mom than Selyse Baratheon (on which note I do NOT like Melisandre's insistence on Shireen coming with them to the Wall). Sansa should tap dat and be Cat 2.0 (except maybe make fewer mistakes that doom her family) and rule the North and the Vale together.
This is my dream. If Sansa's story doesn't end like this I will be horribly disappointed.
McLovin'
05-20-2014, 06:51 AM
Yeah I can picture GRRM writing that sick love scene now between Sansa and Baelish.
"I hated your dad,
he hated me,
So I killed your dad,
But I loved your mom and now she's dead, too.
So now i'm smurfing their daughter.
Gods I have the biggest boner in the 7 Kingdoms right now."
Truly a happy ending for Sansa Stark.
Shaibana
05-20-2014, 12:08 PM
that would make him a pedophile.
Quindiana Jones
05-20-2014, 12:13 PM
Not in Westeros.
Shaibana
05-20-2014, 12:14 PM
u got a point
Agent Proto
05-20-2014, 03:07 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoEeJgYIYAAJIN9.jpg
:shobon:
Loony BoB
05-20-2014, 06:07 PM
Personally I would prefer it if Sansa gets to the point that she can rule without Littlefinger's help. If she hangs around him long enough I'm sure she'll learn the tricks of the trade pretty quickly. Eventually I'm sure Arya can take care of any of her opposition to make Jon Snow's life as a Queensguard all gravy.
Psychotic
05-20-2014, 06:16 PM
Yeah you can see Sansa's starting to see the merits in Littlefinger's way of doing things. I mean his conniving and murdering is the only reason she's now safe from Joffrey and that he is dead, and now again safe from Lysa Arryn, who might have even been a worse mom than Selyse Baratheon (on which note I do NOT like Melisandre's insistence on Shireen coming with them to the Wall). Sansa should tap dat and be Cat 2.0 (except maybe make fewer mistakes that doom her family) and rule the North and the Vale together.Don't forget Littlefinger got made Lord of Harrenhal (and thus the Riverlands) by Joffrey for arranging the royal wedding. That's three kingdoms he has a claim to.
That would be a good plan if Littlefinger wasn't creepy as hell. Also Stannis is going to the Wall? When did we learn that?End of last season. Davos was learning to read and got Lord Commander Mormont's letter about the White Walkers, and brought it to Stannis. That's what saved his life from certain execution as Melissandre agreed they had to fight the cold things. Also didn't you see Selyse and Melissandre talking about it in the last episode and how Stannis wanted Shireen to come? See what happens when you turn your nose up at certain characters' scenes? ;)
Del Murder
05-20-2014, 06:21 PM
They were talking about going somewhere but I didn't catch if they said where. I thought they were talking about going to Braavos. Also how do you expect me to pay attention to plot elements when there are tits on the screen?
Madame Adequate
05-20-2014, 06:35 PM
Don't forget Littlefinger got made Lord of Harrenhal (and thus the Riverlands) by Joffrey for arranging the royal wedding. That's three kingdoms he has a claim
Oh yes you're right, I'd forgotten about that! Plus as the child of a Tully Sansa would eventually be in line for the Riverlands herself.
I hope one day that Sansa finds out that Littlefinger screwed over Ned, causing his death and ultimately caused a war between the Starks & Lannisters, also resulting in the death of her mother and brother.
And then I hope she gets some awesome revenge.
But not yet, she needs to learn the tricks of the trade from Littlefinger, first.
Good episode. Desperate to see the trial by combat.
Does anybody know why it's two weeks until the next episode?
Del Murder
05-20-2014, 11:21 PM
Memorial Day holiday maybe?
Freya
05-21-2014, 01:38 AM
There's no episode this week cause of memorial day.
Shorty
05-21-2014, 08:01 AM
I know I'm going to be disagreed with here, but I felt like the scene between Tyrion and Oberyn in the dungeon was more powerful than Tyrion's speech in the Keep.
Good episode. I figured Lysa flying would happen soon, but I was so fucking looking forward to the trial by combat, I've been looking forward to it all season and now we have to wait another two weeks :colbert:
Pretty surprised that they showed a sensitive side to The Hound. Whenever the show strays from the books, I just keep in mind what Bunny said about the show characters being in a parallel universe than the book characters, and I remember what's been done with The Walking Dead and that the show was ultimately better than the comic book story and to just go along with it.
Shlup
05-21-2014, 09:13 AM
I actually agree with you. When Oberyn was talking I almost felt the need to throw my fist in the air.
McLovin'
05-21-2014, 09:41 AM
Oberyn had the best acting by far in that final scene. The way he portrayed his indifference to Tyrion's "affliction" was so human. You can see the water filling in his eyes as he speaks. Then when he says "what about what I want?" was just so freakin raw, man. Tyrion's reaction when he finally hears the words "I will be your champion" just bursts with emotion, too. Like he'd just been proposed to and had this array of emotions from happiness, relief, surprise, gratitude. I cheered. Not as much as Lysa being Littlefinger'd tho. :D
Agreed, Shorty! I thought the trial scene was great, of course, but not the special scene everyone is saying it is.
Rostum
05-21-2014, 01:01 PM
I agree, I was very moved by the scene with Oberyn and Tyrion. I thought it was just as good, probably even better than Tyrion's court scene.
Tyrion's speech felt a little forced to me. Oberyn's came across a lot more natural.
Alive-Cat
05-21-2014, 01:55 PM
He's probably got a sore throat, or his cat jumped on his throat loads during the night.
Loony BoB
05-21-2014, 03:57 PM
I still feel Tyrion's was better, but that's mostly because I felt that Tyrion was being an idiot for not realising the obvious thing that was going to be said the entire time. As soon as The Mountain was revealed as one part of the fight, Danielle instantly said "Oh, Oberyn has it in for him" and I'm sure it was Tyrion he was talking to in depth about this very thing when they first met in the city before the wedding. So for the forever clever Tyrion to be oblivious as to why Oberyn would be walking in there uninvited was beyond me. I suppose it made for good reading or something but surely Tyrion would have been aware of this possibility from the moment Oberyn started talking about it all?
Shaibana
05-21-2014, 05:54 PM
There's no episode this week cause of memorial day.
thats stupid :l
Scotty_ffgamer
05-21-2014, 05:56 PM
I could see Tyrion not really catch on just because at that point, pretty much everyone had abandoned him. Even Bronn, the one person he thought he could count on as his champion, wouldn't fight for him. Then comes Oberyn who has made it known that he hates all Lannisters. Normally Tyrion probably would have put two and two together, but in the state he was in at that moment he probably just assumed Oberyn came with more bad news.
Shorty
05-21-2014, 06:10 PM
Yep, going to have to agree with Scotty on this. After you have hope your friends and family are going to pull through for you and they don't, after it being apparent that the entire city has zero faith or love for you, why would Tyrion assume that this stranger from another land would stand up to champion on his behalf? It's obvious to us as viewers, but I think that saying Tyrion should have known what Oberyn intended is taking credit from his character and situation.
On top of that, Oberyn has made it pretty clear that he has no interest in the personal squabbles of everyone else. Why would Tyrion hope that he would be defended by Oberyn when the man is apathetic toward his defense at best?
Shaibana
05-21-2014, 06:18 PM
Oberyn will only fight for his own personal gain.
either way, for oberyn it will be a win win situation (sort of)
if he wins the Mountain will die and if he dies, he will take a lannister with him
Lone Wolf Leonhart
05-21-2014, 07:00 PM
Vote Little Finger for ruler of the world.
55217
Shaibana
05-21-2014, 09:26 PM
no ..no ...no ...no. i dont trust him
its either going to be Ser pounce or Podrik payne
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH LOVE :D
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Shorty
05-22-2014, 12:26 AM
I shared this on my blog page and twitter :colbert:
There's no episode this week cause of memorial day.
thats stupid :l
I agree whole heartedly with this.
Freya
05-22-2014, 05:19 PM
No. Because season 2 they had blackwater air during memorial weekend.
Record lows for an episode.
Battle of blackwater and people didn't watch.
Shorty
05-22-2014, 05:20 PM
Makes sense I guess, since often people are away with families and out of town and stuff.
Loony BoB
05-22-2014, 05:45 PM
Yep, going to have to agree with Scotty on this. After you have hope your friends and family are going to pull through for you and they don't, after it being apparent that the entire city has zero faith or love for you, why would Tyrion assume that this stranger from another land would stand up to champion on his behalf? It's obvious to us as viewers, but I think that saying Tyrion should have known what Oberyn intended is taking credit from his character and situation.
On top of that, Oberyn has made it pretty clear that he has no interest in the personal squabbles of everyone else. Why would Tyrion hope that he would be defended by Oberyn when the man is apathetic toward his defense at best?
Because he knows Oberyn is just looking for the first excuse (let alone chance) to kill The Mountain. *shrug* If it was the first thought of Danielle and my second thought (my first thought was the Hound and Arya being too far away and how annoying that was) after knowing the enemy was The Mountain, I guess I just figure that if everyone I knew had abandoned me, I would be desperately looking for every damned option to save my life. I get how it's feasable that it all happened and can be explained without problem, but it still for me made it annoying storytelling because in my head, it "broke character" for Tyrion to be that way.
Shorty
05-22-2014, 05:54 PM
Ah, I respectfully disagree. Knowing that everyone is out for you, that your sister, the Queen, one of the most powerful women in the kingdom has her claws around your throat, knowing that your father - the most important person in the realm beside the king - relishes in this notion with glee, knowing that your brother is going to sit idly by while it happens, knowing that your (arguably) best friend has said, "nah bro, it suits me better to not," knowing that people you depended on and had good faith with testified against you, and worst of all to me, knowing that the woman you had come to trust and love has utterly betrayed you in front of an entire court, and knowing all this while rotting in a darkened dungeon for weeks would leave me in very little faith.
This coupled with the fact that with Oberyn's tale, it is confirmed that Tyrion has indeed been despised by most around him since the birth of his very existence and that he's been publicly humiliated, sought after by murderers and viciously disfigured (moreso in the book), kiddnapped, jailed, falsely accused before - well, all of that would leave me utterly hopeless.
Madame Adequate
05-22-2014, 06:12 PM
Tyrion broke character because Tyrion is broken. As Sarah outlines in the post above this one, he's been kicked around endlessly and every last ally has left him. Cersei has turned the world against him and Tywin has happily supported this. Jaime can't fight for him and Bronn won't. Varys testified against him, Shae testified against him, probably the only friend he has left in the world is Pod, and Tyrion has no idea if Pod is even still alive.
I'm sure Tyrion would like to think Oberyn was there to volunteer, but Oberyn hates Lannisters, why would he be there to do that instead of just gloating?
Shiny
05-22-2014, 06:50 PM
Oberyn had the best acting by far in that final scene. The way he portrayed his indifference to Tyrion's "affliction" was so human. You can see the water filling in his eyes as he speaks. Then when he says "what about what I want?" was just so freakin raw, man. Tyrion's reaction when he finally hears the words "I will be your champion" just bursts with emotion, too. Like he'd just been proposed to and had this array of emotions from happiness, relief, surprise, gratitude. I cheered. Not as much as Lysa being Littlefinger'd tho. :D
This, this exactly. Amazing acting from both gentlemen. I also really enjoyed listening to The Hound's story. It made him seem much more human. You could see it in his face that he had a moment of vulnerability.
Del Murder
05-22-2014, 07:11 PM
Whatever happened to Edmure Tully? Was he killed or is Frey holding him captive?
Psychotic
05-22-2014, 07:20 PM
The latter. He did marry his daughter, after all, and their children - being Tullys - should be heirs to the riverlands. Well, if not for Littlefinger I suppose.
Scotty_ffgamer
05-23-2014, 12:23 AM
The thought of "what if Pod stayed behind" kind of amuses me in this scenario. I just think it would be pretty awesome had Pod volunteered as Tyrion's champion and just obliterated The Mountain, leaving everyone shocked. I know that wouldn't make any sense though.
Lone Wolf Leonhart
05-23-2014, 12:28 AM
He's already been an unsuspecting champion in the bedroom, I'd say let him have a go at the mountain.
pod 2
ladies 1
mountain 0
Noctis Caelum
05-23-2014, 07:18 PM
We haven't really seen Gregor kill anything besides horses. His abilities are massively overrated, imo.
Shorty
05-23-2014, 07:22 PM
Sure, we haven't seen any, but what about all the tales of burning fields and slaying men and raping women and slaughtering children?
Psychotic
05-23-2014, 07:27 PM
We haven't really seen Gregor kill anything besides horses. His abilities are massively overrated, imo.That's kind of harsh to the four guys he butchered in the last episode.
Del Murder
05-23-2014, 09:04 PM
So today I overheard my boss and the president of my company (my boss's boss) talking about this show, the differences between the books and the show in particular. They're both in their 50s... It was surreal.
Freya
05-23-2014, 10:00 PM
Last episode didn't get 8.5 million viewers on the night it aired for nothing!
Shorty
05-23-2014, 10:09 PM
Pretty detailed Tyrion figurine!
http://nerdapproved.com/approved-products/spot-on-tyrion-lannister-figure-is-ready-to-toast/
http://cdn.nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/t1.jpg?874fb4
Bunny
05-24-2014, 04:03 AM
We haven't really seen Gregor kill anything besides horses. His abilities are massively overrated, imo.
I'm sorry but did you somehow miss the part where almost every single character in the show basically shits their pants at the mere mention of his name?
Pretty detailed Tyrion figurine!
http://nerdapproved.com/approved-products/spot-on-tyrion-lannister-figure-is-ready-to-toast/
http://cdn.nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/t1.jpg?874fb4
Will someone refill his cup already? Gods!
Noctis Caelum
05-26-2014, 02:28 AM
We haven't really seen Gregor kill anything besides horses. His abilities are massively overrated, imo.
I'm sorry but did you somehow miss the part where almost every single character in the show basically trouts their pants at the mere mention of his name?
Which is moreso because of his size than him actually killing anybody. I forgot about him slaughtering people at the start of the last episode, you'll have to excuse me for my not so superior memory.
Anyway, I say that as a book reader of all the books, and I don't retract my statement one bit. He's overrated.
Lone Wolf Leonhart
05-26-2014, 03:54 AM
Well, one way to look at today is:
"There's a new Game of Thrones next week!"
Madame Adequate
05-26-2014, 04:26 AM
We haven't really seen Gregor kill anything besides horses. His abilities are massively overrated, imo.
I'm sorry but did you somehow miss the part where almost every single character in the show basically trouts their pants at the mere mention of his name?
Which is moreso because of his size than him actually killing anybody. I forgot about him slaughtering people at the start of the last episode, you'll have to excuse me for my not so superior memory.
Anyway, I say that as a book reader of all the books, and I don't retract my statement one bit. He's overrated.
Nah, Bronn wouldn't be fooled by a big guy. Big guy would be easy for someone like Bronn to kill. If Bronn's almost certain The Mountain would slaughter him, Clegane's reputation must be deserved.
Dr Unne
05-26-2014, 07:44 AM
It's not just Gregor Clegane's size. For one, he's a remorseless psycho killer. We've heard the story of him burning his brother's face off because he borrowed a toy. We've heard how he raped and murdered Elia Targaryen and smashed her babies' heads against a wall. Last episode he was like "Who am I going to kill?" "Does it matter?" "Nah." People are afraid of him because he seems to enjoy raping and killing people. He's insane and sadistic. The book has a lot of pretty horrible stories of other stuff he did. One story says he killed one of his own soldiers because he snored too much.
And he has a high position in the kingdom thanks to the Lannisters, which is even scarier, because he wanders around with a little army of like-minded people doing whatever he wants. Who has the authority to stop him? Ned Stark tried to have him arrested, and he killed the people sent to take him in. It's been nothing but rumors of war crimes since then. Recall in that joust scene, after decapitating his horse, he almost murdered Ser Loras right in front of the king and everyone. Who could get away with that kind of stuff except him?
It's his size/strength plus his standing in the kingdom plus his lack of compunction that combine to make him a scary guy. There isn't a lot of on-screen or in-person stuff involving him in the show or the books, but in my opinion that makes him seem worse, because a lot is left up to imagination.
Shaibana
05-26-2014, 11:13 AM
Well, one way to look at today is:
"There's a new Game of Thrones next week!"
what? not this week? D:
atleast theres a penny dreadful, so i got that going for me, wich is nice
I spoiled myself on the wiki again. I am not looking forward to ___. I'm not looking forward to ___ at all!
Shaibana
05-26-2014, 12:08 PM
I spoiled myself on the wiki again. I am not looking forward to ___. I'm not looking forward to ___ at all!
alot already got spoiled for me too, unwilingly, im not looking forward to ___. either :l
Quindiana Jones
05-26-2014, 12:09 PM
I can't wait for it, myself.
Can everyone tell me in spoiler marks what ___________ is?
Shaibana
05-26-2014, 01:53 PM
are you sure you want to know that? it would really ruin alot
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeNwb0B_700b.jpg
I've read the books, I'm just not sure what you all are talking about.
Shaibana
05-26-2014, 02:16 PM
I've read the books, I'm just not sure what you all are talking about.
not 100% sure either, but its either Oberyn dying in the combat or Tyrion killing Shae and comiting suicide
Tyrion doesn't commit suicide.
But ah, I see now. :)
Shaibana
05-26-2014, 02:31 PM
Tyrion doesn't commit suicide.
But ah, I see now. :)
ooh, i was convinced he did, ooh well, i guess theres still some suprise in that part then :P
p.s how do you rename the spoilers?
[ spoiler = text you'd like to name it to ] [/spoiler]
no spaces :)
Shaibana
05-26-2014, 03:54 PM
[ spoiler = text you'd like to name it to ] [/spoiler]
no spaces :)
aaaah ok, thanks alot
woop woop
Alive-Cat
05-26-2014, 04:21 PM
There is a big gaping hole in what would usually be a joyous monday afternoon after work today.
Shorty
05-26-2014, 08:26 PM
how can you people spoil things for yourselves I don't understand
Shaibana
05-26-2014, 09:12 PM
how can you people spoil things for yourselves I don't understand
my bf's brother spoiled alot, and a few weeks ago i stumbled on another spoiler on a 9gag post.
i was curious at some comments and i imediatly got punished for breaking the 'dont look at the comments'-rule
Madame Adequate
05-26-2014, 09:18 PM
BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS
Speaking of spoilers, two BIG book spoilers here, things not even remotely hinted at in the show yet:
Is Lady Stoneheart going to show up anytime soon, do y'all think? I would have thought we'd have seen her already, but now I'm betting on Episode 10 of this season.
Are Young Griff and Jon Connington going to show up anytime soon, do y'all think?
I'm banking on her being the final scene of episode 10 as she should be. Not just because she was the epilogue in SoS, but because she (imo) is the most fantastic and exciting revelation of the series so far. Can you imagine how must the internet would blow up if she was the season finale and they had to wait an entire year to see what happens next? From a television standpoint, that is absolutely the most fantastic way to end the season
I would probably say next season in episode one or two, but it depends on how fast the scene with Tyrion and Tywin comes about. I was originally banking on it being a season finale point, but now I'm thinking episode 9. Possibly introduce them in the season finale and you're just like OH FUCK WHAT
Psychotic
05-26-2014, 10:03 PM
In response to the Adequate post:
1. Yes, I think the events you described will occur in the finale.
2. Next season, definitely not this one. Though I have to wonder how they're going to play the next season given the way Martin set up Feast/Dragons in terms of the geographic split rather than chronological. I guess they'll cover both books simultaneously and split it over 2/3 seasons? Has any word been given as to how they'll do it yet?
Shlup
05-26-2014, 10:31 PM
I gasped when it happened in the book, so I do hope it's the last shot of this season as well.
Shorty's first spoiler was the ___ yes. I am happy to have been able to cause such confusion 8D
Shauna
05-26-2014, 11:23 PM
Shorty's first spoiler was the ___ yes. I am happy to have been able to cause such confusion 8D
It happened quickly, less than a day! Shorty and Shaibana have been confused. xD
Del Murder
05-27-2014, 12:45 AM
I can't wait until ____ happens. It's going to be quite _____. Of course, _____ isn't going to like it but fortunately they'll _____ in the _____ with _____ after the _____.
McLovin'
05-27-2014, 03:19 AM
I can't wait until nothing happens. It's going to be quite empty. Of course, bitches isn't going to like it but fortunately they'll crap in the crapper with nothing after the digestion.
Shaibana
05-27-2014, 11:39 AM
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aRQdLB5_700b.jpg
for some reason i can not copy this image, so here is the link to it
http://9gag.com/gag/aKz5933
Loony BoB
05-27-2014, 11:42 AM
______________ ______ _________ _ _____ _________ ________ ______ ____ ______ ________ _________ _________ ______ __________ _________ __________ _____ _____ ____ _______ _______ _______ so _______ ______ __ __ ____ ______ _______ _____ ____ ___ ____ _______ _____ _____ __ ___ __ _ ______ ______ _ ____ ___ ____ __________ ____ ___ ________ ________ _______ ______ ____ _ ________ _____ ________ ___ ___________ _____ _______ _______ ______ _______ _______ ___ ____ ________ _____ ______ ___ __ _____ _______ ________ ________ ____ ____ _______ because _____ _____ ___ ______ _____ ____ ______ _____ __ _ ______ _____ ___ ____ _____ ______ _______ _______ ___ ____ ______ ____ ______ ___ __ ______ ___ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ ____ __ _ __ _____ ___ ___ __ __ ______ ____ ___ __ _____ ____ _________
Del Murder
05-27-2014, 02:28 PM
Go ___ yourself BoB.
Loony BoB
05-27-2014, 03:26 PM
Only after I _____ you. :love:
blackmage_nuke
05-29-2014, 02:20 AM
We haven't really seen Gregor kill anything besides horses. His abilities are massively overrated, imo.
He also jousted a guy through the neck for no real reason in his first joust.
We haven't really seen Gregor kill anything besides horses. His abilities are massively overrated, imo.
He also jousted a guy through the neck for no real reason in his first joust.
He looked at him funny.
Shiny
05-30-2014, 04:23 AM
This is some repugnant _____.
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aRQdLB5_700b.jpg
for some reason i can not copy this image, so here is the link to it
http://9gag.com/gag/aKz5933
I saw that on 9gag, if it's not a re-post and is the one I saw, then the comments either have trolls or the horrible kind of spoilers. I do not advise non-book-readers to venture forth.. As I have not read the books, I have no idea if the show has been ruined for me or not. But oh well I guess
Edit: I should point out, for some reason I was simply going to the comments to watch people bitch about holidays and stuff. I'm not sure why it didn't occur to me that it's the troll's den of 9gag and should be wary of spoilers
Shaibana
05-30-2014, 04:21 PM
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aRQdLB5_700b.jpg
for some reason i can not copy this image, so here is the link to it
http://9gag.com/gag/aKz5933
I saw that on 9gag, if it's not a re-post and is the one I saw, then the comments either have trolls or the horrible kind of spoilers. I do not advise non-book-readers to venture forth.. As I have not read the books, I have no idea if the show has been ruined for me or not. But oh well I guess
Edit: I should point out, for some reason I was simply going to the comments to watch people bitch about holidays and stuff. I'm not sure why it didn't occur to me that it's the troll's den of 9gag and should be wary of spoilers
you should have known better
rule nr.1 of game of thrones post: dont look at the comments
I just wanted to see the people of the world whine about American holidays :( Was that too much to ask?
blackmage_nuke
05-30-2014, 07:32 PM
I didnt want to be visited by the ghost of Memorial Day Past
Shaibana
05-30-2014, 09:53 PM
I just wanted to see the people of the world whine about American holidays :( Was that too much to ask?
like i said... you ignored rule nr1 so you payed for it..
NEVER EVER look at comments at a GOT post!!
Noctis Caelum
06-01-2014, 06:51 PM
Finally, it returns tonight!
My favourite part of the entire series: Red Viper vs the Mountain.
Please HBO, don't fuck it up.
Psychotic
06-01-2014, 07:30 PM
Check out my video about Final Fantasy and Game of Thrones you guys :love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnlJFeqwxzg
Alive-Cat
06-01-2014, 07:40 PM
I'm really glad I haven't read the books yet. After I started watching the show I've purposely put off reading them so I can enjoy the show and be surprised, but mainly because when it's all over at least I can start reading them and immerse myself in the world even more!
Hurry up, 9pm tomorrow! :excited:
Psychotic
06-01-2014, 10:48 PM
Hurry up, 9pm tomorrow! :excited:I just stream it from the net in the morning so I don't have to wait as long :D
Freya
06-01-2014, 11:23 PM
Hbogo. I can watch it 10 mins into airing tonight. Sometimes they delay it and I have to wait the full hour. Yay!
Alive-Cat
06-01-2014, 11:46 PM
I just stream it from the net in the morning so I don't have to wait as long :D
Agent Proto
06-02-2014, 01:06 AM
Terminodor
https://24.media.tumblr.com/254826d0949d323aaddb7bf186d0f7eb/tumblr_n6i77sfaUQ1rihymso4_500.png
McLovin'
06-02-2014, 01:32 AM
The hype is real. Bring it on :D
Lone Wolf Leonhart
06-02-2014, 03:47 AM
Absolutely worth the 2 week wait.
It's not often when I'm so intensely into a scene of a show that I hold my hands up to my face because I'm anticipating the horrible things that might happen. Tonight's episode was perfect.
Carl the Llama
06-02-2014, 04:13 AM
That was probably the most gruesome death scene I have ever seen.
Lone Wolf Leonhart
06-02-2014, 04:25 AM
Big highlights of the episode for me: Jorah's fate, Arya laughing like a maniac, Sansa being shady, the mountain versus the viper
holy trout the mountain versus the viper was perfect.
Alright. Let me ask this, though. What did you guys take from Jaime and Tyrion talking about beetles for six minutes? I've got my own ideas. I'd like to hear others.
McLovin'
06-02-2014, 04:31 AM
Dude I can't stop thinking about that ending. I can understand Oberyn's pride being his downfall, but jesus smurf that was shocking as smurf. At least he killed the Mountain though, and the mountain confessed that Tywin gave the order right?
Sansa and Baelish just became the most smurfed up people that have my full support and I could not believe it.
Carl the Llama
06-02-2014, 04:38 AM
I think that beetle guy was squashing beetles because he likes to have power over life and death... didn't really think anything else about it.
On a side note I cant wait to see Tyrion kill shae and Tywin, also the way Cersei loses her trout when she think Tyrion is out to kill them all also I am going to call it:
http://i.imgur.com/7GQB8P8.jpg
Freya
06-02-2014, 04:51 AM
I thought arya's laughing was just perfect.
Sansa is a hottie now that she's all "I'm no longer basic, i'm not a boss b"
Ramsey is such a crazy smurf but I love him. He's so excited that he's a bolton now.
I like how it just faded to no music as the credits. I enjoy the distress of my boyfriend at this show. He was mad about ned. He didn't talk to me for an hour after the red wedding and today he was like "I feel sick. :( Godamn this show"
Noctis Caelum
06-02-2014, 05:22 AM
Blanket, check.
Leftover dinner, check.
Drink, check.
Boner, check.
Everybody on mute, check.
*flexes butt cheeks*
Routine complete. LET'S DO THIS. :DDDDDD
Freya
06-02-2014, 05:56 AM
http://37.media.tumblr.com/5d9b508741f6ee7e0bffa164da037934/tumblr_n6isg0KFLp1ruu897o1_500.gif
Del Murder
06-02-2014, 05:56 AM
I need to stop watching this show before bedtime. That was a little too gruesome for me. This show can have some powerful moments, but also be really icky.
Shiny
06-02-2014, 05:59 AM
Sansa is now Littlefinger 2 apparently.
Noctis Caelum
06-02-2014, 06:35 AM
Jesus christ. Now that's an episode.
Where to begin?
The duel was masterfully done. Any doubt I had of HBO's choice of Oberyn Martell was dashed into a thousand pieces at the first instance of him showing off his insane skills with a spear. His movements would had made Darth Maul melt into a puddle of green pudding. They didn't completely nail it though. The part that really sells what we just witnessed wasn't the result of the duel. No, it was Tyrion's reaction, to his imminent guilt. I am SURE that we will see his reaction first thing in the next episode, or I at least remain hopeful of that. But smurf. That was one of the most goriest deaths I've ever seen. Takes a lot nowadays to make me jump and say "HOLY trout" out loud. Especially because I knew it was coming.
It took Sansa four seasons, but she has finally come into her own. At least enough for everybody to not be able to refute it any longer. I was pretty much captivated by her the first moment I saw her, which was fascinating because I didn't care for her book character much at all. That may have something more to do with her looks than anything else, and I'm certainly not ashamed to admit that I was attracted to her from the word go. Only now that she is of legal age are people coming out of the wood work calling her attractive. It's highly amusing, but it is what it is. I don't remember her lying like that in the book, but I don't really remember at all. So it was a pleasant surprise.
I am also glad that Ser Jorah's betrayal has finally been revealed. It was easily the most intriguing thing to happen in Dany's storyline since Drogo was apart of it. Not that that's saying much. And please, don't get me started on this Grey Worm/Missandei romance rubbish. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN IT.
As for the episode 9 build up, I was quite glad to see that Ygritte does have a sensitive side, sparing Gilly and Monster. That was touching. I quite enjoy seeing Tormund Giantsbane in action too. The more I see him, the happier I am. He's just such a hulking, sexy man.
I really enjoy every scene that Ramsay is in. Hate him in the books, but in the show, Iwan has proverbially stolen my heart. He's brilliant at making you respect him, love him, hate him and fear him all in one go. Put all of those qualities together, and you just stop and think about how few actors are able to deliver that many different sides to them. It's uncanny and amazing. His reaction to being legitimized was wonderful, and exactly how I would imagine Jon's reaction would be, if Ned didn't bite the dust and was capable of legitimizing him.
And finally, a would be incredible scene that would steal the highlight of any episode had it not been the trial by combat, Jaime and Tyrion's possible last conversation together was memorable and quite endearing. Not to mention positively hilarious. It seems a bit out of character for Tyrion to mock someone based on their shortcomings, being that he knows how it feels to be on that judged side of the spectrum, but I felt a lot more than just filler talk in it. It was mysterious, entertaining, and adorable. The relationship between Jaime and Tyrion is so beautiful and sacred that I almost want to cry thinking that this may be the last time we see them together.
Lone Wolf Leonhart
06-02-2014, 06:56 AM
I felt a lot more than just filler talk in it. It was mysterious, entertaining, and adorable. The relationship between Jaime and Tyrion is so beautiful and sacred that I almost want to cry thinking that this may be the last time we see them together.
Yeah, that's a pretty good way to look at it. I'll agree with that.
Freya
06-02-2014, 07:00 AM
Also this episode was beautifully shot. I swear every scene was shot so perfectly. The cinematography was beautiful.
McLovin'
06-02-2014, 07:00 AM
Littlefinger: Do you think you know me?
Sansa: I know what you want.
*stares intensely*
...
*staring intensifies*
Shorty
06-02-2014, 07:02 AM
That scene with Sansa and Petyr, holy trout, blew my mind. Amazing acting on Sansa's part, and that little moment she and Petyr shared was intriguing. I think that this show does such an excellent job of portraying the two sides of Petyr Baelish. Even if he is a dirty old man.
Sick of Arya. Sorry. Sick of her. Don't like her character at all. However, her bursted laughter at Lysa's death was pretty hilarious.
I enjoyed the Jaime and Tyrion bonding scene in the dungeon. Especially the simple cousin smashing beetles part.
This fight scene is what I have been waiting for a all smurfing season, and it did not disappoint. other than it lasted mere minutes (which I guess is realistic, but come on, we've all been waiting for this). Oberyn was beautiful and a joy to watch. The theatrics were a bit much with the hopping around, but other than that, awesome. Except when his eyes were being gouged out and his face smashed. :( That was awful.
I would like to hear beetle theories if they do not spoil anything - books or future episodes.
Elite Lord Sigma
06-02-2014, 07:09 AM
. . . Well, I certainly chose a fine episode to stumble into this series. I mean, I knew full well this series' graphic violence long before tonight, but that closing scene was brutal. This is coming from somebody who has curb stomped, chainsawed, and gibbed more than his fair share of enemies in video games.
Sick of Arya. Sorry. Sick of her. Don't like her character at all.
We heard you the first time.
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Goddammit, Oberyn! You had it! You smurfing had it!
Kalevala
06-02-2014, 07:35 AM
I love seeing Sansa's development into a calculating game player, and now we have the physical appearance to match.
Arya's scene was funny, but not much else. All of us starting laughing even before she did, so it was even funnier when she joined in. I'm interested to see how this plays out. Will these soldiers just let The Hound and Arya Stark walk out of The Vale? Will Arya want to stay in The Vale, or will she be content to stay with The Hound? What plans will he have for her, knowing there is no one else he can ransom her to?
That fight scene! Oberyn didn't particularly stick out for me in the books. Pedro Pascal, on the other hand, made me grow to love the character. They nailed his death. Seeing a character that suave, cocky, and composed screaming for his life is one of the most disturbing things I've seen on television in some time. I knew very well what was coming, and was still shaken by it.
Alright. Let me ask this, though. What did you guys take from Jaime and Tyrion talking about beetles for six minutes? I've got my own ideas. I'd like to hear others.
I think this is the writers telling us there is no justice in Westeros. The strong destroy the weak, and there is no way to understand or put a stop to it. Death is all around us, and much of it is senseless. Does Tyrion think it's right to mock the handicapped? Of course not, but he'll be damned if he isn't going to do it anyway so he can be part of the strong at least in some fashion. This is akin to high school cliques and how an outsider might mock someone so the "cool kids" will embrace them, even if they know it is wrong.
Get busy killing or get busy dying.
Freya
06-02-2014, 07:57 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/c343d0590837d3a8713346b6d03c2090/tumblr_n6ithep9K31ruwssto3_250.gif
Creepy stare of creepy
Arya/Sansa family reunion?
No?
No. T_T
Carl the Llama
06-02-2014, 08:21 AM
Good job she didn't get any closer, every time Arya gets close to one of her family members they seemingly die.
Hell, she didn't even have to be close to Lyssa and the bitch fell through a moon door. If she and Sansa met up now... lol.
fucking HUBRIS
I am so MAD AT YOU OBERYN
YOU WERE ONE OF MY FAVOURITES
FUCK
gory as shit I did not enjoy that. Ellaria's reaction was really well done, as was the looks of disbelief on Jaime and Tyrion's faces. Fuck Cersei though, what a bitch. Fuck all of them. Fuck the Mountain. GODDAMMIT GEORGE WHY MUST YOU DO THIS TO ME.
Good job she didn't get any closer, every time Arya gets close to one of her family members they seemingly die.
Hell, she didn't even have to be close to Lyssa and the bitch fell through a moon door. If she and Sansa met up now... lol.
My gods. She's the Solid Snake of Game of Thrones.
Psychotic
06-02-2014, 08:28 AM
That Arya laugh and that Baelish/Sansa, god damn. And Ramsay too.
And then
YOU RAPED HER
YOU MURDERED HER
YOU KILLED HER CHILDREN
smurf me.
That fight scene! Oberyn didn't particularly stick out for me in the books. Pedro Pascal, on the other hand, made me grow to love the character. They nailed his death. Seeing a character that suave, cocky, and composed screaming for his life is one of the most disturbing things I've seen on television in some time. I knew very well what was coming, and was still shaken by it.
Seriously. That screaming before the explosion was what did it for me. You never think you'd hear him scream, but scream he smurfing did.
Yellow_Magic
06-02-2014, 08:48 AM
After THAT ending, I think I need to stop watching this show. The last thing I need reminding of is how even the good guys can suffer the WORST deaths. Goddammit all.
Tick tock, goes the clock
Even for Tywin...
Tick tock, goes the clock
till Cersei takes control
Iceglow
06-02-2014, 09:24 AM
fuck me...
Noctis Caelum
06-02-2014, 09:39 AM
Tick tock, goes the clock
Even for Tywin...
Tick tock, goes the clock
till Cersei takes control
Cersei still gets what she has coming to her. #ULTIMATEHUMILATION.
Tick tock, goes the clock
Even for Tywin...
Tick tock, goes the clock
till Cersei takes control
Cersei still gets what she has coming to her. #ULTIMATEHUMILATION.
Season Five is going to be a fun season.
Dr Unne
06-02-2014, 10:29 AM
Oberyn's death was freaking horrible. They only show a second of Oberyn getting wrecked, then the "crunch" happens when he's off-screen, but it's still bad. The worst part was Ellaria Sand's reaction, her scream was painful to watch. I had to go play with my cat for a few minutes to clear my mind after that.
And then Cersei grins. Is there anyone who views her as a sympathetic character? Liking her kids is the only redeeming quality she has, and when her kids are monsters, even that might not be so good.
Then I told my spouse about this episode and she was like "Why do you watch this?" Which is a really good question. Why do we? It feels good to watch the bad guys get their comeuppance. It doesn't feel good to watch the good guys die horrible deaths. Maybe there's some schadenfreude, but it has its limits. Does reading something horrible make us feel better about our lives by comparison? Do we all have a violent, sadistic side that this stuff appeals to? I've been really into dark fiction for a while and I can't explain the appeal, but the appeal is clearly there.
Yellow_Magic
06-02-2014, 10:52 AM
Then I told my spouse about this episode and she was like "Why do you watch this?" Which is a really good question. Why do we? It feels good to watch the bad guys get their comeuppance. It doesn't feel good to watch the good guys die horrible deaths. Maybe there's some schadenfreude, but it has its limits. Does reading something horrible make us feel better about our lives by comparison? Do we all have a violent, sadistic side that this stuff appeals to? I've been really into dark fiction for a while and I can't explain the appeal, but the appeal is clearly there.
Ugh, I can relate to this 100%. Like, I don't really feel like I'm gaining anything from Game of Thrones anymore, beyond a few funny lines here and there. What's the point of watching a show if it's just gonna make you feel miserable all the time? Maybe it IS just schadenfreude - which is not something I'm comfortable with :<
Dr Unne
06-02-2014, 11:00 AM
Then I told my spouse about this episode and she was like "Why do you watch this?" Which is a really good question. Why do we? It feels good to watch the bad guys get their comeuppance. It doesn't feel good to watch the good guys die horrible deaths. Maybe there's some schadenfreude, but it has its limits. Does reading something horrible make us feel better about our lives by comparison? Do we all have a violent, sadistic side that this stuff appeals to? I've been really into dark fiction for a while and I can't explain the appeal, but the appeal is clearly there.
Ugh, I can relate to this 100%. Like, I don't really feel like I'm gaining anything from Game of Thrones anymore, beyond a few funny lines here and there. What's the point of watching a show if it's just gonna make you feel miserable all the time? Maybe it IS just schadenfreude - which is not something I'm comfortable with :<
I'm thinking now that part of the appeal is that it's popular and it's fun to talk about with other people who watched the show. There's the shared experience of feeling horrible as a group.
Quindiana Jones
06-02-2014, 11:07 AM
I would like Pedro Pascal to play every single Dornish character in this show until it ends. I will gladly suspend my disbelief if it means I can see him in more scenes.
I loved Littlefinger's spoiler in this episode. xD
I enjoy the story, the characters, and the lore. I can't say I have ever felt miserable watching this show despite all the horrible things that happen. I also like how it has a lot of interesting female characters that are well portrayed, and that's something I haven't seen since Xena: Warrior Princess. I wouldn't assume everyone who watches it does so because they enjoy the suffering of the characters in front of them. I'm sure they exist, but I doubt they're the majority.
Iceglow
06-02-2014, 12:55 PM
I would like to think my previous post summed up my reaction to Oberyn's death and when you consider thats with full knowledge of the event happening.
As a person whose had his jaw shattered, I physically felt the pain of Oberyn getting smashed in the face by Clegane for him.
chionos
06-02-2014, 01:34 PM
Then I told my spouse about this episode and she was like "Why do you watch this?" Which is a really good question. Why do we? It feels good to watch the bad guys get their comeuppance. It doesn't feel good to watch the good guys die horrible deaths. Maybe there's some schadenfreude, but it has its limits. Does reading something horrible make us feel better about our lives by comparison? Do we all have a violent, sadistic side that this stuff appeals to? I've been really into dark fiction for a while and I can't explain the appeal, but the appeal is clearly there.
Ugh, I can relate to this 100%. Like, I don't really feel like I'm gaining anything from Game of Thrones anymore, beyond a few funny lines here and there. What's the point of watching a show if it's just gonna make you feel miserable all the time? Maybe it IS just schadenfreude - which is not something I'm comfortable with :<
I'm thinking now that part of the appeal is that it's popular and it's fun to talk about with other people who watched the show. There's the shared experience of feeling horrible as a group.
It's the Law of Conservation of Pain and Joy.
blackmage_nuke
06-02-2014, 01:49 PM
Great episode, the Oberyn vs Mountain scene was better than the book. The Arya laugh was a nice touch.
Del Murder
06-02-2014, 03:04 PM
Then I told my spouse about this episode and she was like "Why do you watch this?" Which is a really good question. Why do we? It feels good to watch the bad guys get their comeuppance. It doesn't feel good to watch the good guys die horrible deaths. Maybe there's some schadenfreude, but it has its limits. Does reading something horrible make us feel better about our lives by comparison? Do we all have a violent, sadistic side that this stuff appeals to? I've been really into dark fiction for a while and I can't explain the appeal, but the appeal is clearly there.
I've asked myself the same thing. I certainly got no entertainment from that, not even some sadistic appeal. It was just gross. It makes me now want to watch this show, even though 95% of it isn't like that.
The problem is that there is no use rooting for likable characters. They either get murdered or corrupted. Tyrion is probably going to get his head chopped off, Sansa has been corrupted, Arya has gone crazy. I guess there is Jon, Bran, and Dany but their storylines take place so far from the action (and you barely even get to see Bran) that it's difficult to get invested in them.
If Tyrion gets his head chopped off next episode and we don't get a Sansa/Arya reunion to placate ourselves then I may be done with this! Done I say!
Formalhaut
06-02-2014, 03:22 PM
I feel so dirty and unclean for watching that. I actually refused to watch the end of that scene. I turned the volume down and just averted my eyes, as I sort of sensed that doom impending.
He suffered from James Bond Villain syndrome - not finishing off Clegane when he should damn well do so. I think he wanted the confession though, so he backed off.
I really liked Oberyn as well :(
chionos
06-02-2014, 03:48 PM
Then I told my spouse about this episode and she was like "Why do you watch this?" Which is a really good question. Why do we? It feels good to watch the bad guys get their comeuppance. It doesn't feel good to watch the good guys die horrible deaths. Maybe there's some schadenfreude, but it has its limits. Does reading something horrible make us feel better about our lives by comparison? Do we all have a violent, sadistic side that this stuff appeals to? I've been really into dark fiction for a while and I can't explain the appeal, but the appeal is clearly there.
I've asked myself the same thing. I certainly got no entertainment from that, not even some sadistic appeal. It was just gross. It makes me now want to watch this show, even though 95% of it isn't like that.
The problem is that there is no use rooting for likable characters. They either get murdered or corrupted. Tyrion is probably going to get his head chopped off, Sansa has been corrupted, Arya has gone crazy. I guess there is Jon, Bran, and Dany but their storylines take place so far from the action (and you barely even get to see Bran) that it's difficult to get invested in them.
If Tyrion gets his head chopped off next episode and we don't get a Sansa/Arya reunion to placate ourselves then I may be done with this! Done I say!
56358
I think you're bluffing.
Shorty
06-02-2014, 04:22 PM
I watch this show because I'm invested in the story and interested to see plot and character expansion. I love the fact that GRRM does horrible things to his characters - it humanizes the show for me. GRRM's writing style irks me a bit at times, but one thing I will give him amazing credit for is the fact that he actively takes leaps and bounds to unfold events you never could have conceived.
These first four seasons feel like we are still building up to a massive climax, and with everything GRRM has delivered, I know it's going to be a good one. That's why I watch. Bad guy comeuppance is a good kind of satisfaction, but it's only a small part of it; I think that climactic storytelling is another better kind.
Kalevala
06-02-2014, 04:59 PM
I'm glad Martin (and, by extension, Benioff and Weiss) don't cater to me.
Expanding on what Psy said in the recent YouTube video, any character having the possibility to die at any time has the opposite effect of what you'd expect. Rather than cause me to think "fuck it, everyone I love will die so there's no point" I end up even more attached to these characters because their existence is potentially so fleeting. I'm far more emotionally invested than I would be if everyone is safe. Does this mean I get hurt more? Sure, but it also means I feel more overall. It means so much more when "the good guys win" or when there is a funny or happy moment.
Del Murder
06-02-2014, 05:09 PM
Hm, I feel the opposite. If everything goes as it is going, I'll no longer give a smurf about any of these characters after this season. I'll have to weigh that with the desire to see how it all ends because the overarching plot is still interesting.
Also, having a guy's skull crushed doesn't 'humanize' the character for me. I already know skulls can be crushed without having that proven for me on screen.
I think I just need to read ahead in the books so that I'm prepared for this crap. It's much easier to deal with this brutality in print form.
Psychotic
06-02-2014, 05:45 PM
You keep saying you've been put off and you're going to stop watching after every character dies Del and yet here you are. ;)
Alright. Let me ask this, though. What did you guys take from Jaime and Tyrion talking about beetles for six minutes? I've got my own ideas. I'd like to hear others.Because that's all humanity is to Gods. Because that's all that human lives are when you play the Game of Thrones. Because that's what characters are to George RR Martin. SMASH, SMASH, SMASH...
Del Murder
06-02-2014, 06:35 PM
Have I said that more than once? I guess I'm a broken record. ;) Well, Tyrion is still around so I'm not done yet. And it's more the brutality I have issue with than likable characters dying. Well, specifically, likable characters dying in brutal ways.
Flying Mullet
06-02-2014, 06:41 PM
Love or hate what happened, I have to give HBO props because today is the first day in four seasons that I have heard people asking around the office for who watches the show.
Noctis Caelum
06-02-2014, 07:14 PM
Then I told my spouse about this episode and she was like "Why do you watch this?" Which is a really good question. Why do we? It feels good to watch the bad guys get their comeuppance. It doesn't feel good to watch the good guys die horrible deaths. Maybe there's some schadenfreude, but it has its limits. Does reading something horrible make us feel better about our lives by comparison? Do we all have a violent, sadistic side that this stuff appeals to? I've been really into dark fiction for a while and I can't explain the appeal, but the appeal is clearly there.
Ugh, I can relate to this 100%. Like, I don't really feel like I'm gaining anything from Game of Thrones anymore, beyond a few funny lines here and there. What's the point of watching a show if it's just gonna make you feel miserable all the time? Maybe it IS just schadenfreude - which is not something I'm comfortable with :<
If a show is good enough, and/or realistic enough, to make you feel horrible after an episode, then I'd say the actors and everybody involved are doing a pretty damn good job. It's not like we're watch snuff films and getting off from it. It is first and foremost ENTERTAINMENT.
And if you're no longer entertained by GoT, then it might be time to ignore it. I think Game of Thrones is getting far too mainstream anyway.
Anyway, as violent as Oberyn's death was, his death shouldn't have stirred this kind of reaction out of people. You should expect it by now. What about when Ned died and his own daughter was there to "see" it? Or the Red Wedding? There's been so many violent deaths, and they got praised like crazy.
Guess it makes sense to draw the line when a guys head explodes like a grape.
Shorty
06-02-2014, 07:15 PM
I can't be the only one who was not bothered by the gore of this last episode x_x
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