Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

[Jinx]

He's right near the bottom with a yellowish picture.

EDIT: actually the picture is blue/white

[Loony BoB]

Yeah, worth noting that's on the one krissy posted, not on mine as the one I posted is a season or two old I believe.

[Ergroilnin]

Ah :x that is it then, I kept looking at the map.

[The Captain]

Ah the joys of photoshop:

https://www.facebook.com/primadonneofficial/posts/1377822432267002


Take care all.

[Jinx]

The Baelish one is my favorite. xD Also love the Varys for ~reasons~ #varysisamerman #istillbelieve

[Doomie]

My problem this season, after re-watching the entire thing, wasn't the teleportation plot-hole nor the rushed story-advancements/dialogue. I'm okay with JonxHoundxJorah going North of the wall for proof of a WW because that's something they'd do. I'm also okay with Dany lying to Tyrion and flying North to save Jon because that's what she'd do. They're struggling to meet a deadline, and as unfortunate as that is, I can appreciate they are, at the very least, keeping with five books' worth of character development in that regard.

I am not okay with Sam ignoring Gilly (for dramatic irony) because he's never really done that before. I'm also not okay with Petyr Baelish starting a giant civil war and killing the king without anyone suspecting it was him, only to be outsmarted by two girls whose combined ages equal half of his own. I also don't like how the show seems to be overusing Bronn as a foil for just about everything. That's what strikes me as lazy. I don't care that most of this season has been CGI and action because how the hell else was the war supposed to be won? It couldn't all happen during a small council meeting. But man, that Petyr Baelish thing really bugs me.

[Loony BoB]

To be fair, that was more Baelish making sloppy mistakes than anything, and also Baelish not being used to dealing with a person like Ara. But more than anything? The one thing he couldn't get past wasn't Sansa or Arya. It was Bran. He literally saw all the things happen. Baelish is all okay when he's dealing with the aristocracy but he has never really been in the kind of situation he found himself in at Winterfell. As soon as Bran threw out the "Chaos is a ladder" line there was nothing Baelish could do for all his wits. The best thing he could have done the moment he had some idea that Bran really could see the past is get the hell out of Winterfell, but with what excuse and where would he go? The Vale would be the obvious choice but then he is once again apart from Sansa and outside of the sphere of influence in the world. He basically hoped (or even believed, as we're unsure of how much he knew or believed about Bran's abilities) that nothing would come of Bran and that was his failing.

As for Arya, there are so many ways she could have found out about his antics that Baelish couldn't have spotted it. Looking back, it makes sense that Arya stayed in her regular face while being 'tricked' by Littelfinger because that meant that Arya could convince Baelish he was tricking her. If she'd gone under any other face she could have snuck around gathering information and even snuck in there without Baelish knowing it was her, but she wanted Baelish to think that it was her, so he'd think he had the upper hand. Simultaneously in this way she kept her ability secret, allowing her to actually follow Baelish when she wished without actually being caught because he'd be none the wiser.

But seriously, that was all Bran. Bran is the ultimate trump card at any court session. He can verify anything.

[Psychotic]

There was apparently a deleted scene (http://www.nme.com/news/tv/deleted-scene-from-game-of-thrones-explains-massive-plothole-2133308) where Sansa goes to Bran at the last minute and asks for his help and as the actor says, he does the CCTV thing. So that means all the stupid back-and-forth I'MA KILL YA SIS bulltrout between Sansa and Arya wasn't them acting to lull Littlefinger into a false sense of security, it was real. Which is just :|

[Loony BoB]

Well it makes sense that there was some friction, considering they met privately when he wasn't around. But yeah I do agree that it would have been better with no friction at all. Of course, then you flip it all around and consider that they never got along as kids and years have passed without being around each other and then consider what each of them has gone through and I guess it's natural that they wouldn't be most trusted best friend sisters. But yeah it was a bit much. Of course, let's face it, I consider anyone who ever listens to Littlefinger to be a fucking idiot right from season one. The only reason he hadn't been killed is because they all wanted to use him against the other houses, which only furthers how little anyone should have trusted him. He was a pawn trying to be king but personally I never felt he was as clever as people seemed to think he was. It baffles me that he wasn't murdered earlier on.

[Psychotic]

I can believe there'd be friction between the sisters sure, but waving daggers around and doing the "lol I'ma keel you" routine is fucking ridiculous.

[Formalhaut]

I can believe there'd be friction between the sisters sure, but waving daggers around and doing the "lol I'ma keel you" routine is smurfing ridiculous.

There's friction then there's full-on, no eyewitnesses threatening and intimidation.

Honestly the whole Winterfell arc's been badly written, and feels like this season's Dorne. Wasted potential. The main thing it needed was more scenes, more dialogue, more time. It feels like it's missing a few scenes to really clarify what's going on.

Also, notice how Sam didn't cite Gilly when he laid out his discoveries to Bran. How rude!

[The Captain]

The Winterfell sequence this season once again felt like they had the end point of "Littlefinger dead, Starks united" and then tried to reverse engineer it. It is quite the strange end for a character who thrived in the shadows and playing people off one another.

I recently went back to watch Season One again and MAN, is Littlefinger creepy from the start. The way he is all over Cat Stark and yet somehow, she TRUSTS him!

There is no such thing as too much Bronn, but he (and Davos to some extent) have become the one-liner machines the writers use whenever they want to break up all the big monologuing that other characters engage in. Still, I am happy he wasn't burnt or drowned this season and look forward to him getting that castle and high born wife.

One other lingering question I have:

What the heck happened to Varys? He went from being this master of information and now... just sort of hangs out in the back ground. I get that the story needs to streamline itself, but so many characters are being sidelined that it feels almost like we forgot the personalities and backstories that came before it.


Take care all.

[Formalhaut]

The Winterfell sequence this season once again felt like they had the end point of "Littlefinger dead, Starks united" and then tried to reverse engineer it. It is quite the strange end for a character who thrived in the shadows and playing people off one another.

A lot of the plot points this season seem to revolve around reverse engineering. Like with Dany 'needing' to lose a dragon. Well what better way than to achieve that than teleportation! And so on. It's kinda lazy. It also means Tyrion is forced to look like an absolute idiot, like with Dany losing her forces and the situation at Casterly Rock (that got resolved suspiciously without any fanfare).

Also agreed with Varys. He's really out of focus now. Again, this is probably because this season's focus on big set-pieces as opposed to subtle intrigue. This also explains why Littlefinger had to die. The show's moving towards mythology and war, and there simply isn't enough time to include heavy politics. Littlefinger doesn't factor into White Walkers and doomy prophecies. They just exist in separate spheres.

[The Captain]

Completely agree on Tyrion. He's gone from being the most clever character to the one who is always screwing up? I don't buy that for a minute.

Take care all.

[Fox]

I just wanna put this on the record: the White Walkers are the worst part of Game of Thrones and their prominence now has - not ruined, but certainly diminished - the show as a whole.

They were fine when they were this kind of 'distant threat;' everyone except the Night's Watch could get on with their subtle maneuverings to place themselves on the Iron Throne. But at some point that 'distant threat' has to become an 'immediate threat,' at which point everyone has to drop all the interesting trout they're doing and march north to fight them. I think it's safe to say that the least interesting part of the last 7 seasons have been the zombie movie bits.

And now, unfortunately, it's mostly the zombie movie.

[Formalhaut]

I just wanna put this on the record: the White Walkers are the worst part of Game of Thrones and their prominence now has - not ruined, but certainly diminished - the show as a whole.

They were fine when they were this kind of 'distant threat;' everyone except the Night's Watch could get on with their subtle maneuverings to place themselves on the Iron Throne. But at some point that 'distant threat' has to become an 'immediate threat,' at which point everyone has to drop all the interesting trout they're doing and march north to fight them. I think it's safe to say that the least interesting part of the last 7 seasons have been the zombie movie bits.

And now, unfortunately, it's mostly the zombie movie.

All true. Having said that though, they did have to become a more immediate threat eventually. But it's still a shame, I preferred the intrigue and character development. The show just had more time to... settle, as opposed to the hasty storylines we're getting now (i.e Winterfell).

[Fox]

I just wanna put this on the record: the White Walkers are the worst part of Game of Thrones and their prominence now has - not ruined, but certainly diminished - the show as a whole.

They were fine when they were this kind of 'distant threat;' everyone except the Night's Watch could get on with their subtle maneuverings to place themselves on the Iron Throne. But at some point that 'distant threat' has to become an 'immediate threat,' at which point everyone has to drop all the interesting trout they're doing and march north to fight them. I think it's safe to say that the least interesting part of the last 7 seasons have been the zombie movie bits.

And now, unfortunately, it's mostly the zombie movie.

All true. Having said that though, they did have to become a more immediate threat eventually.

I just wish they'd never been there in the first place and the only threat from 'beyond the wall' was in fact the Wildlings.

[Psychotic]

I don't think the Wildlings would be a good stand in. Their whole motivation for coming south is to escape from the White Walkers. They're not motivated by conquest and violence in the main, although some certainly are, but out of a need for survival.

I also think Hardhome was one of the greatest episodes the show has produced, and the existential horror of the White Walkers and their works created some truly powerful moments (the scene at the gate and the scene on the boat at the end both instantly spring to mind) that couldn't have been replicated with a different foe.

With that said, I agree that it has been one of the weakest aspects of the show, with it being at its strongest when the political intrigue and plotting is taking place, interspersed with unexpected violence.

There's a George RR Martin quote that is often wheeled out when discussing the White Walkers/Others.
Much as I admire Tolkien, and I do admire Tolkien — he’s been a huge influence on me, and his Lord of the Rings is the mountain that leans over every other fantasy written since and shaped all of modern fantasy — there are things about it, the whole concept of the Dark Lord, and good guys battling bad guys, Good versus Evil, while brilliantly handled in Tolkien, in the hands of many Tolkien successors, it has become kind of a cartoon. We don’t need any more Dark Lords, we don’t need any more, ‘Here are the good guys, they’re in white, there are the bad guys, they’re in black. And also, they’re really ugly, the bad guys. This quote is often used to wave away criticism of the White Walkers and the many enthusiastic theorymakers have tried to add genuine motivations to them that aren't "smurf you let's just kill everyone" as a result.

The problem that I have is that they're leaving this payoff entirely too late and with such little foreshadowing with it to become rewarding. If your best evidence that the White Walkers are more than just murderous arseholes is a vague quote from the author, the writers have done a pretty bad job. The Sixth Sense would've been trout if there hadn't been all those glaring but easily missed hints throughout that, well, y'know. As it stands, they could pull the Shyamalan twist that "omg humanity were the real monsters all along" and I won't really give a smurf and still want Jon, Dany et al to smash them asap so we can get back to the real business of who wins the Game of Thrones.

The best we have so far is that flashback Bran had and Children of the Forest saying they made them to stop men invading their lands. Okay, the manufactured super soldier gone rogue trope. Meh. FFVII did that one a lot better!

[Loony BoB]

Remember this?

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I wonder what relevance (if any) that will have eventually. It's always stuck in my mind when I ponder any motivations or chances for them to be 'not completely evil guys' that could pop up.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

This season had a lot of good moments, and I'm willing to wave away situations where people probably should have died (ie Jaime) in exchange for the hope that they will have monumental scenes and potentially greater deaths in season 8.

I'm aware that's not how people like to watch this show. They want the real deal, right now reality of what should have happened. But the season's over. So let's find a silver lining.

Given the length of the final two seasons, I'm kind of treating them as a Part 1 and Part 2 to the overarching "Great War" story. Of course, not everyone will look at it that way. But it helps if I think of this season as set up, where the chess board is being placed for a good end game. We've gotten rid of the pawns, the enemies are in a position to check, and it'll be a furious battle to see who can get checkmate first.

[Doomie]

To be fair, that was more Baelish making sloppy mistakes than anything, and also Baelish not being used to dealing with a person like Ara. But more than anything? The one thing he couldn't get past wasn't Sansa or Arya. It was Bran. He literally saw all the things happen. Baelish is all okay when he's dealing with the aristocracy but he has never really been in the kind of situation he found himself in at Winterfell. As soon as Bran threw out the "Chaos is a ladder" line there was nothing Baelish could do for all his wits.

But seriously, that was all Bran. Bran is the ultimate trump card at any court session. He can verify anything.

Seems like such an easy out, though. There has to be parameters to what he can do/know.


There is no such thing as too much Bronn, but he (and Davos to some extent) have become the one-liner machines the writers use whenever they want to break up all the big monologuing that other characters engage in. Still, I am happy he wasn't burnt or drowned this season and look forward to him getting that castle and high born wife.

Not saying I disagree; I love both Bronn and Davos. But that's kina like saying Olenna Tyrell should be the one sleeping with Jon Snow because Diane Rigg is a better actress than Emilia Clarke.

[Loony BoB]

Definitely an easy out, and there are some light parameters - he has to know what he's looking for (as evidenced by not thinking to watch Jon Snow's parents marriage etc).

I think honestly it's entirely reasonable that a person such as Bran would go back to find out who attempted his murder as a child, and what he got up to after that. I don't know that it would make sense he'd know about the Chaos Is A Ladder moment, but knowing it was Petyr who gave a blade to someone to kill him? That's reasonable.

[Freya]

So to combat leaks and spoilers and to keep it a mystery even to those on set, Game of Thrones will be recording multiple different endings. (http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/13/game-of-thrones-multiple-endings-series-finale/) So it'll be a mystery which one is the real one until it airs.

[Shaibana]

So to combat leaks and spoilers and to keep it a mystery even to those on set, Game of Thrones will be recording multiple different endings. (http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/13/game-of-thrones-multiple-endings-series-finale/) So it'll be a mystery which one is the real one until it airs.

hah! i love that! nice move

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I hope we get a look at the alternate endings via deleted scenes on bluray.

[Mr. Carnelian]

I hope we get a look at the alternate endings via deleted scenes on bluray.

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[Jinx]

Emilia Clarke posted on Instagram yesterday that she has wrapped filming. As one of the 3 main characters (Dany, Jon, Cersei), it's probably safe to assume a majority of the cast is getting close to wrap as well.

DO Y'ALL THINK WE'LL SEE A WINTER 2019 RELEASE THAT WOULD BE FITTING HUH

[Crop]

I thought it had already been confirmed as next April?

[Jinx]

Is it? I hadn't seen that. SOURCES, JAMIE.

[Crop]

Apparently Maisie Williams let it slip in an interview, but a two second Google search shows that was all a load of crap.
Seems my finger isn't on the pop culture pulse like I thought it was.

[Bubba]

Emilia Clarke posted on Instagram yesterday that she has wrapped filming. As one of the 3 main characters (Dany, Jon, Cersei), it's probably safe to assume a majority of the cast is getting close to wrap as well.

Nah, that just means she dies in the first episode.

I wouldnt necessarily be upset by this.

[Bubba]

I don’t want to wait until 2019. Admins, please change the thread title...

[Jinx]

Part of her post was that it was an emotional thing, and she felt it was her job to do it well (ha!) because the final scene will leave a particular taste in the mouths of some people about Danaerys forever.

So probably she's gonna kill Jon.

[Freya]

Or she has to kill all her babies including her jon baby or something

[carefulmom]

Confirmed 2019 release date
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/game-of-thrones/257456/game-of-thrones-season-8-release-date-spoilers-cast-episodes-news-story-and-finale-details

[Jinx]

Well, we all knew it was 2019, but 2019 is a pretty big time window.

[Freya]

I'm ride or dying this thread. I've been stanning this show for 7, almost 8, years now!

TEASER TIME

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This past two... years... :( .... I've actively avoided all theory crafting. It kind of ruined my experience the last season as I had participated in lots of theory crafting and was right on some of it (wrong on others) but ti kind of sullied some of the big omg reveals. SO THIS YEAR, i'm mostly going in blind outside of the ya know, show and books lol.


Teaser is sweet though.

[Crop]

My biggest hope for this season is that Gendry gets legitimised and resurrects the greatest house in all of Westeros - Baratheon.

He even weilds a hammer like his dear old dad!

[Jinx]

LONG LIVE QUEEN CERSEI

[Aulayna]

I know I'll watch it when it airs, but after over a year without I'm kinda "eeeeeeeeeeeeeh" about it right now.

[Mr. Carnelian]

My biggest hope for this season is that Gendry takes his top off again

Fixed it for you :p

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Anyone interested in watching the announced prequel?

https://www.hbo.com/hbo-news/game-of-thrones-prequel-what-to-know.html


Taking place thousands of years before the events of Game of Thrones, the series chronicles the world’s descent from the golden Age of Heroes into its darkest hour. From the horrifying secrets of Westeros’s history to the true origin of the White Walkers, the mysteries of the East to the Starks of legend, only one thing is for sure: It’s not the story we think we know.

[Freya]

Yeaaaaah i'm probably watch it.

Did anyone catch the like 3 second teaser? Sansa didn't look happy

[Bubba]

OK, thread title can be changed now as it is 2019.

The disappointment in how season 7 was handled has done nothing to dull my excitement for season 8. I literally CANNOT WAIT for this. Sky Atlantic are showing it all from the beginning starting this coming Monday. I'm gonna record every episode and re-watch in Feb/Mar in preparation.

Also, we need to do a WHO DIES thread. Oh wait, I can do that...

[Freya]

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[Psychotic]

GET OUT OF THERE CATELYN :colbert:

[Freya]

Yah no.kidding, shes a tully. And wheres bran. Maybe the crypts aren't wheelchair accessible

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/read-george-rr-martins-beautiful-800-page-apology-sixth-game-thrones-book-delay/

[Freya]

SPOILER, not sure if it's accurate or not though

https://i.redd.it/613l839gs4c21.jpg

[Freya]

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[Bubba]

Are we doing one final changing of our sets?

I’ll probably get mine ready for the start of April.

[Jinx]

I'm doing Cersei Lannister this year. No one has stanned harder for her than me. But yes, of course we are! It's a time-honored tradition. D:


EDIT: There, I did it. Rob and I have been rewatching the series anyways, so it's appropriate. We're wrapping up season 2 today.

[Freya]

Back to being my main man, Drogon

[Freya]

So the reason Jinx hates Dany is after season one, and in season 2 when Jinx started her dead eyes comments, Emilia Clark was recovering from a brain aneurysm (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/emilia-clarke-a-battle-for-my-life-brain-aneurysm-surgery-game-of-thrones). Then after season 3 she had to have another open brain surgery for a second one.

Probably had dead eyes because she was fighting through pain while on morphine after nearly dying o_o

[Jinx]

I've always said--seriously, go back and comb the thread--that she seems like a charming, sincere, and kind person in real life. But she can't act. She even mentions that in season 1, and for the last couple of seasons she's been healthy. In season 7...she's still a bad actress. The scene where she meets Jon for the first time, Davos and Tyrion are there. And it's just painfully, horribly apparent that her talent is nonexistent when she's in any scene with competent actors. Which is often, but not always (looking at you, Missandei). Perhaps a day will come when I see her in something and just think she's a great (or even good) actress. But this ain't it, sis. (And neither is Me Before You, while we're at it).

What she went through was genuinely smurfing awful, but it doesn't make her a good actress. It does mean she has a lot of personal strength, and I seriously commend her fortitude to deal with all of that, as well as her dad's death, while filming a show that is so incredibly intensive.

[Jinx]

IN OTHER NEWS I am extremely ready for season 8 and it's one of the things keeping me sane atm

But damn, season 4 is fuckin' rough. There are some good moments, but big oof.

[Freya]

Yeah and I've always firmly and strongly disagreed with that. I felt her portrayal of Dany wasnt bad acting. I have found her acting has been diverse with the characters development. She tries to be strong and stoic when talking to people as a queen but her acting is softer in moments with "friends". It's the characterization of dany.

[Jinx]

I think this is something we're just always going to disagree on, Freya. xD

Despite my opinions on her acting ability, I've never wished her ill and hope she stays in good health.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I might change my sig/av set if I remember how to do it. It has been so long.

I'll change it to whatever character gets mentioned next in this thread.

[Jinx]

HOT PIE

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

you know what nevermind

[Jinx]

dude hot pie is amazing, i ain't even playing


fine be like arya or something

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Don't want y'all to think ToriJ has returned.

[Jinx]

Don't want y'all to think ToriJ has returned.

dude :lol:

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Yeah I'm comin' for all your heads.

LWL is sitting on the throne by the end of this thing.

[Jinx]

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[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Smh delete this.

[Jinx]

oh, there's no pleasing you :mad2:

[theundeadhero]

I'm ready!

[Vincent, Thunder God]

I refuse to watch anything until A Dream of Spring is released in 2028.

[Jinx]

I refuse to watch anything until A Dream of Spring is released in 2028.

I admire your optimism both that you think A Dream of Spring will be released in 2028, but even more so that it will be released at all.

[Vincent, Thunder God]

I refuse to watch anything until A Dream of Spring is released in 2028.

I admire your optimism both that you think A Dream of Spring will be released in 2028, but even more so that it will be released at all.

Either GRR will survive the Winds of Winter, or someone else will have to finish it.

[Jinx]

I refuse to watch anything until A Dream of Spring is released in 2028.

I admire your optimism both that you think A Dream of Spring will be released in 2028, but even more so that it will be released at all.

Either GRR will survive the Winds of Winter, or someone else will have to finish it.

He's already said multiple times that no one is finishing the series for him.

[Psychotic]

I refuse to watch anything until A Dream of Spring is released in 2028.

I admire your optimism both that you think A Dream of Spring will be released in 2028, but even more so that it will be released at all.

Either GRR will survive the Winds of Winter, or someone else will have to finish it.

He's already said multiple times that no one is finishing the series for him.i'd like to see him stop me

look see:

Tyrion devoured a meal of intricate crusted gooseberry pastries, lined with neat boiled aubergine parcels alongside a seared rhinoceros flank steak.
"I must needs a whore," he interjected. "Where do whores go?"
Before he received an answer, he first had to munch on a greasy capon wing, smothered in scented goat's butter and scrambled zebra finch eggs.

He then counted the banners outside the window. A gloved fist on a field of green, the arms of House Spatchcock. A striding boar, resplendent on an esutcheon of navy, the arms of House Popplejump. He briefly pondered Daenerys' thatched silver sex in between mouthfuls of honeyed turnip berries and stewed jam chops. A dancing pheasant twisted round a golden chain underneath a tower of lavender marble emblazoned upon a sun of purest ochre, the arms of House Bumbletwat.

Polishing off a Dornish red, he slapped Penny forcefully in the face. "Where do whores go?"

[Vincent, Thunder God]

i'd like to see him stop me

look see:

Tyrion devoured a meal of intricate crusted gooseberry pastries, lined with neat boiled aubergine parcels alongside a seared rhinoceros flank steak.
"I must needs a whore," he interjected. "Where do whores go?"
Before he received an answer, he first had to munch on a greasy capon wing, smothered in scented goat's butter and scrambled zebra finch eggs.

He then counted the banners outside the window. A gloved fist on a field of green, the arms of House Spatchcock. A striding boar, resplendent on an esutcheon of navy, the arms of House Popplejump. He briefly pondered Daenerys' thatched silver sex in between mouthfuls of honeyed turnip berries and stewed jam chops. A dancing pheasant twisted round a golden chain underneath a tower of lavender marble emblazoned upon a sun of purest ochre, the arms of House Bumbletwat.

Polishing off a Dornish red, he slapped Penny forcefully in the face. "Where do whores go?"

Wine and Food: A History of Pentos

[Freya]

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[Jinx]

So, I've been careful tip-toeing around r/freefolk, but has anyone else watched the new opening sequence that's going around? I knew they'd have to change it up somehow, because surely we aren't going many places other than Winterfell/the Wall/King's Landing?

lawdie lawdie it's looking sexy

[Freya]

Nah, I'm heavily trying to avoid all theory crafting and spoilers this time around. It's super hard.

[Jinx]

Nah, I'm heavily trying to avoid all theory crafting and spoilers this time around. It's super hard.

I refuse to read anything I know is an outright spoiler.

[Jinx]

I messaged Freya about this, but despite not being a Dany stan, watching her come home was great. This rewatch I've been LOVING her theme, and I noticed that as she arrives at Dragonstone is the very first time the song is in a major key. It resolves in a minor key, but it's a super powerful change that makes it all really hopeful and positive.

[Jinx]

is it weird i want to fuck davos

[Psychotic]

yes

think of those stumps caressing you

[Jinx]

hey that's not fair, i'm sure he has a big penis :(

[Kalevala]

What if the penis got the same treatment as the right hand?

[Psychotic]

I think book Davos is a better lover than show Davos if his number of progeny is anything to go by.

[Jinx]

What if the penis got the same treatment as the right hand?

That stills leaves about 8 more inches to go, buddy.


I think book Davos is a better lover than show Davos if his number of progeny is anything to go by.

Probably true. Also, in the books, he loves his wife. So, while he sows his seed with prozzies when he's out and about, you also know he'd be emotionally faithful to you.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Just a couple days left now. It's the final time for this annual question.

Who do you feel is 100% on the chopping block, and conversely who do you think has absolutely no chance of dying?

Give me all hot takes and bold predictions. Cast photo for reference, but still a few characters like Bronn, Tormund, and Beric are missing.

I'll start with an easy one. I don't think there's any way the Mountain makes it out of this thing.

I feel pretty confident about Sansa surviving, but this post may not age well.

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[Jinx]

Absolutely will live:
Sansa
Lyanna Mormont
Sweet Robin
Gendry
Hot Pie

Absolutely will die:
Jorah
Qyburn
Night King

Most likely will live:
Tyrion
Sam
Little Sam
Pod
Meera*

Most likely will die:
Cersei
Jaime
Bronn
Varys
Melisandre
Yara
The Mountain
The Hound
Euron
Beric

Not sure, but leaning towards live:
Daenerys
Grey Worm
Bran
Davos
Edd
Arya
Gilly
Drogon
Theon

Not sure, but leaning towards dead:
Jon
Tormund
Brienne
Ghost
Rhaegal
Missandei

*if she appears this season, although if she doesn't it's a pretty safe bet to assume she made it back to Greywater Watch and lives

I think come Sunday I'll compile this down to just a simple Live/Die list, and keep track of my predictions as the season goes on. If I've missed anyone, let me know!

EDIT: Haha, I keep remembering people!

[Jinx]

So I'm thinking of running a little competition for the final season on live/die predictions. Prize would probably be a Steam game of the winner's choice. Is there anyone besides myself and LWL who would be interested in doing it?

[Psychotic]

I'll play. How do we do our entries, just posting them in the thread?

I've gone with Tyrion because I've had him every single season that we started doing this. So I will be the Imp, one last time.

[Jinx]

I'll play. How do we do our entries, just posting them in the thread?

I've gone with Tyrion because I've had him every single season that we started doing this. So I will be the Imp, one last time.

I'll post a list based on the list I posted above (if you see any character excluded you think should be on it, let me know), and simply ask people to sort them all by Live/Die.

At the end of every episode, I'll tally any incorrect answers in the Live, and at the end of the series do so for those in the Die category (because you can really only know once the last episode ends if you were incorrect about someone dying). Whoever has the fewest incorrect answers wins.

[Psychotic]

Cersei's baby. :greenie:

Also the Night King. I'm not 100% convinced he's dying! Maybe 70%.

[Jinx]

Here's the working list of characters. Let me know if I missed anyone. Oh, and btw I've been considering doing a little game for a few days, but did reach out to LWL about doing this, before I just harshed his steelo.

Arya
Beric
Bran
Brienne
Bronn
Cersei
Daenerys
Davos
Drogon
Edd
Euron
Gendry
Ghost
Gilly
Gregor (The Mountain)
Grey Worm
Hot Pie
Jaime
Jon
Jorah
Little Sam
Lyanna
Meera
Melisandre
Missandei
Night King
Pod
Qyburn
Rhaegal
Robin
Sam
Sandor (The Hound)
Sansa
Theon
Tormund
Tyrion
Unnamed Lannister Baby
Varys
Yara

[Freya]

Oh I'll do it, yeah, why not.

[Jinx]

Just PM me your predictions so we don't clog up the thread!

Does the list look okay?

[Kalevala]

Also down for this. Can't think of anyone missing from the list.

[Jinx]

Awesome :D Looking forward to the fun.

Here's the Google Doc I'll be using!

GoT Death List 2k19 (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xft9Dto8vsnOB6F47V_2q5IoO-X9XDrkIfVt_gBkhHg/edit?usp=sharing)

[Freya]

K I'll procrastinate on this and get it to you at the last possible moment

[Jinx]

K I'll procrastinate on this and get it to you at the last possible moment

sounds about right o7

[Denmark]

K I'll procrastinate on this and get it to you at the last possible moment

me too

[Kalevala]

Oh christ I just realized how close the season is.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Decided to go with Viserion.

I kept using Viserys long after season 1 so I guess this is fitting.

[Freya]

I think I'm going to throw my hat in the ring and say I think Sansa will end up on the throne. I just.. All the other contenders I see dying.

[Jinx]

I think I'm going to throw my hat in the ring and say I think Sansa will end up on the throne. I just.. All the other contenders I see dying.


Is it weird I think you might be right, honestly? Everyone else dies, she becomes Queen in the North, and protects and leads the southern people through the Long Winter. Even if we defeat the White Walkers, the Long Winter is still coming. Who better to lead than a Stark who has shown to be extremely adept at ruling, when given the chance?

At the very least, Sansa will be Queen in the North.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I think they might "break the wheel". No more throne, at least not the iron throne.

[Psychotic]

At the very least, Sansa will be Queen in the North.


I think they might "break the wheel". No more throne, at least not the iron throne.Yes, I agree with these statements!

Also Cersei's baby will be a dwarf and she will live long enough to see it and go even more mad. And then Uncle Tyrion will find the love he has always desperately craved as he raises the child to rule the Westerlands. :3:

Also also I think in the book they'll make peace with the White Walkers (Others if you want to be pedantic) and coexist but in the show they have to kill every last one of them.

[Jinx]

At the very least, Sansa will be Queen in the North.


I think they might "break the wheel". No more throne, at least not the iron throne.Yes, I agree with these statements!

Also Cersei's baby will be a dwarf and she will live long enough to see it and go even more mad. And then Uncle Tyrion will find the love he has always desperately craved as he raises the child to rule the Westerlands. :3:

Also also I think in the book they'll make peace with the White Walkers (Others if you want to be pedantic) and coexist but in the show they have to kill every last one of them.

I said to Denmark last night, what if the WW are actually running from something even bigger?! Everything they've done up to this point has been to reach out and communicate with the living to form an alliance to fight the ACTUAL big bad?! oooooh spooooky

I think your theory about Cersei's baby is a good one, I just can't see this final season lasting long enough for Cersei to actually grow and give birth to a baby. But if she does, it will almost assuredly happen as you've said.

[Bubba]

The Night King to trip over a direwolf pup and land on a piece of dragonglass... instantly ending the war. Direwolf pup declared Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, King of the Andals, the First Men and Protector of the Realm.

Puppy's first act is to take a sh*t on the doorstep of the Red Keep.

[theundeadhero]

Is this the first season we've represented all three dragons?

[Freya]

At the very least, Sansa will be Queen in the North.


I think they might "break the wheel". No more throne, at least not the iron throne.Yes, I agree with these statements!

Also Cersei's baby will be a dwarf and she will live long enough to see it and go even more mad. And then Uncle Tyrion will find the love he has always desperately craved as he raises the child to rule the Westerlands. :3:

Also also I think in the book they'll make peace with the White Walkers (Others if you want to be pedantic) and coexist but in the show they have to kill every last one of them.

Oh I like this dwarf theory.

And it might be the first time we all had a dragon


I'm going to be having a small viewing party. There will be 6 of us! So I'm going to make a meat pie and lemon cakes to be on brand hehe

[Jinx]

there's this thing my family makes called cheesecake dessert. 2 sticks of cheesecake room temp, electric beat with one can of sweetened condensed milk. super simple, very tasty, looks like of like a white blob.

make that and call it jojen paste

[Freya]

It wasnt until I was looking at that list did I realize how many people I think are going to die.

[Jinx]

It wasnt until I was looking at that list did I realize how many people I think are going to die.


You should check out the Google Doc. Shauna is the goddamn Many-Faced God.

[Shauna]

What is dead may never die

[Jinx]

btw: jon is totally snubbing daenerys for sansa and marrying her instead. and he and daenerys definitely made a baby, so he's going to have a bastard, the thing he always dreaded.

TIN FOIL CALLING IT NOW

[Psychotic]

btw: jon is totally snubbing daenerys for sansa and marrying her instead. and he and daenerys definitely made a baby, so he's going to have a bastard, the thing he always dreaded.

TIN FOIL CALLING IT NOWBy Sansa do you mean Arya? otherwise 10/10

though I guess I have Arya down to die so

[Night Fury]

i'll probably watch this at some point.

[Jinx]

TWELVE HOURS!!!

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I'm making my brackets right now.

The hardest part is keeping in mind what kind of show this is, and realizing that despite being the final season, I can't put all the "bad guys" on my death list.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

The hardest part is keeping in mind what kind of show this is, and realizing that despite being the final season, I can't put all the "bad guys" on my death list.

Cancel that. I put pretty much all the big bads on my death list.

I think the bittersweet and shocking aspects of the final season will be largely about the decisions and deaths of our heroes, and the deaths of our enemies will be in more of a traditional fantasy route of good finally overcoming evil.

This is another post of mine that will not age well.

[Jinx]

OH NO

I JUST REALIZED I FORGOT TO ADD ROBIN TO MY LIST

EDIT: Updated the list for anyone else who might want to play, reaching out to those who already sent in their things.

[Jinx]

Cool cool, added a friend from a different site in, as she wasn't having luck finding people who were interested doing a poll. I think I've gotten everyone who showed interest, but if you want to do the GoT deathpool, now's your time to get in answers! I'll stop accepting any one hour from now.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Our main man George RR Martin was on 60 minutes and here are a few takeaways:

"I published the 5th book around the start of the show and I believed I would have the last 2 finished before the show caught up with me"

-The major beats of the show will be the same as the books but the fates of some secondary characters will likely be different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDentEr9c4

[Jinx]

Top notch acting from the guy who plays Sam. His conflict with finding out his father had died, then his brother.

RIP poor Umber kid. Tbh, that jump scare GOT me. I'm interested to finally find out what that pattern means.

"My eyes have ALWAYS been blue!"

I am ready to see Sansa fuck up Daenerys. Yeah, you think you're such a bad ass because you have dragons, but you can't beat Sansa in a real fight. THIS BITCH.

Also, love Theon and Yara.

@Freya probably fangirled really fucking hard at Gendrya.

It's about what I expected. I figured this episode would be the happier reunion (as it was) and that no one would really die. Next week we might see some deaths, but I really think the bloodbath is only going to start once we get to the Battle of Winterfell. Solid episode, though. Needs more Davos.

[Freya]

I did fangirl very hard and Gendry and Arya.

Jon on a Dragon was neat. Wonder how the Yer a Targaryen, arry. Is gonna go with dany. I don't think she'll be happy. I'm curious on how Jaime will fair as well.

And yeah major props to John Bradley as Sam. His facial expression were great at that scene. Told so much with so little words.


Also yeah I totes laughed at "My eyes have always been blue!"

[Jinx]

OMG HOW DID I NOT MENTION THE NEW OPENING

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

When you make out with your aunt:

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[Jinx]

Despite the obvious changes (and holy shit, the new opening is amazing)

We got more sound interaction than we ever have. I think before the only sound we got was the elevator as it climbed the Wall. Now everything is clicking.

The thing that stood out to me though, was the gold bands with the house sigils on it are tarnished now. That's extremely interesting to me, and a weird change to make.

[Freya]

Oh oh. I was just discussing with dalton.

So after the episode they have an "inside the episode" thing and David and dan said that Jon rode a dragon and ONLY targaryens ride dragons.

You know who else is riding a dragon, albeit undead? smurfing night king is a targaryen, confirmed.

That's my tinfoil

[Jinx]

Jorah, Tormund, Beric, Sandor, and that random wight they took to King's Landing Targaryens confirmed.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I love that the first episode of both the first and last season ended with Jaime and Bran.

It's portrayed as a tense moment, which it is for Jaime, but I think new and improved Computer-Bran is too "above it all" to have ill will toward Jaime and he just sees the strategic aspect of this person helping them in the trials ahead.

Plus Bran told Sam he was "waiting for a friend".

[Jinx]

I love that the first episode of both the first and last season ended with Jaime and Bran.

It's portrayed as a tense moment, which it is for Jaime, but I think new and improved Computer-Bran is too "above it all" to have ill will toward Jaime and he just sees the strategic aspect of this person helping them in the trials ahead.

Plus Bran told Sam he was "waiting for a friend".

I liked that the same song that played with Robert showed up in s1e1 played as Dany and Jon rode in. Unless I'm mistaken, that's the only other time that song has played.

bookends, y'all

book ​ends

[Freya]

Jorah, Tormund, Beric, Sandor, and that random wight they took to King's Landing Targaryens confirmed.

Lol that's a little different. They were passengers, not the driver heh

[Psychotic]

oh god don't tell me they're going to have bronn do the noble thing this is game of thrones surely he can't. "You said to tell you if anyone wanted me to kill you and you'd double the price" "Sorry I have nothing but the bro love we shared" *bronn acts as though he's about to kill tyrion but then a white walker interrupts and tyrion saves him* "well ok good enough for me" barf no no no DO NOT

Sam broke my heart, such a good wonderful lad.

Uggggh no, no Gendry x Arya, gross. Speaking of reunions, from the way little Lyanna Mormont glared at her cousin(?) Jorah I was hoping we'd have a little scene there.

[Jinx]

Gendrya grosses me out too, because Arya has never once showed an interest in romance or stuff like that. Seeing her flirt felt weird and wrong.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I'm interested to finally find out what that pattern means.

Not enough people appreciate that Fire and Blood is FAB for short.

TIN FOIL FAB SOCIETY

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[Freya]

Gendrya grosses me out too, because Arya has never once showed an interest in romance or stuff like that. Seeing her flirt felt weird and wrong.

She showed an interest in gendry! Where have you been!

[Jinx]

https://imgur.com/81ki8yU

I've missed the memes.

[theundeadhero]

I miss that one dude who recapped entire episodes with pics and funny quotes. I don't remember who or where it was anymore, but the new ones were linked to in this thread.

[Psychotic]

I miss that one dude who recapped entire episodes with pics and funny quotes. I don't remember who or where it was anymore, but the new ones were linked to in this thread.It's this fella: https://www.reddit.com/user/ChrysWatchesGot He also did Westworld.

As you will see from his newest post, he is working on the premiere :)

[Freya]

So I've been thinking, and Sansa totally got Dany to walk into her being a tyrant.

"Yeah but how will we feed everyone? What do your dragons even eat?"
"Anything they want :smug:"
Yeah wrong time to flex, Dany. Jon was just trying to get them to trust you and you have to make that veiled threat? Dany is totally a conqueror and not a ruler. Queen Sansa to rule them all! She laid it out for Dany and Dany stepped right into it. How clever. She did learn from the Tyrell women, littlefinger, Cersei, Tyrion, and even Ramsey, though.

[Bubba]

Definitely the calm-before-the-storm episode. I appreciated that too as no doubt there will be fewer smiles in the next few weeks as our favourite characters are torn apart horrifically.

I honestly didn't think Cersei would be that eager to get Euron in the sack. He’s clearly gonna think he’s got her up the duff.

Glad Theon rescued Yara but he’s still way past redemption for me. Hopefully he can do a bit more good before rightfully meeting his demise.

I don’t have an issue with Gendry and Arya at all. I thought she had a crush on him when she was a kid/teenager. She’s a woman now and he’s hardly an old man. I think it’s just because people still see her as that rebellious little Stark girl.

[Jinx]

Dany was a total cock in this episode. NOT the time to show your dick, Dany. Yes. Sansa was being snarky. But her question was a good one. Did you bring food and provisions with your army? How were you going to feed them if you'd stayed on Dragonstone or marched on King's Landing? You realize it's winter and people need to conserve food where they can, right? I don't know? Maybe something you should have thought about before you destroyed the Lannisters' convoy? Oh wait! You did! You still destroyed it anyways even though you would have had a decisive victory regardless, you dumb bitch.

Also, I don't think next episode is going to have a ton of deaths either. Most likely the people who are really in danger of the chopping block are Tormund, Beric, and Edd or red shirts as they race against the Night King and the AotD to Winterfell. Out of the three, I can really see Beric eating it. Tormund's making it to Winterfell, and Edd is one of Jon's best friends, so I'm sure we'll get another reunion, and Edd with Sam as well, before he inevitably eats it. I really don't think we'll see a bloodbath until ep3 and the Battle of Winterfell.

[Freya]

In the trailer it briefly showed Edd talking to Jon, so they make it. Somehow... maybe some make it.

[Jinx]

Well, I wasn't gonna say what was in the trailer. Are we marking trailer stuff under spoiler warnings, or nah?

That said, though, if they're doubling up on a handful of horses, they can only go so fast. I guess it doesn't really matter if they ride their horses to exhaustion (which I assume would happen faster with two grown men to one), because if you look at the map Winterfall's not really too too far from Last Hearth. But like. They're going to die anyways. What's a few horses, I guess?

Also, for the person asking, here's this episode's recap: https://imgur.com/a/Qhq2Cu6

[Jinx]

Also, I took some issue with Dany siccing her dragons on the smallfolk at the beginning of the episode then smiling at their fear. That was a pretty :bou::bou::bou::bou:y move, even for her.

[Freya]

I feel they intentionally made her seem more of a baddie than normal. Kinda how they made us think there was an issue with Arya and Sansa last season. It was just a bit too much to make her out to be a shit.

[Jinx]

SHE IS A SHIT

A NARCISSISTIC SHIT WHO DOESN'T LIKE NOT BEING A SAVIOR

[Jinx]

https://i.imgur.com/UoRJ5MH.jpg
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[Freya]

SHE IS A SHIT

A NARCISSISTIC SHIT WHO DOESN'T LIKE NOT BEING A SAVIOR

I mean shes not that bad, not capslock bad. Shes just more suited to conquering than ruling. We've seen that in mareen already.

[Jinx]

she's deffo caps lock bad

too bad she's 100% gonna live to the end of the series

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

She's not capslock bad. The show is leaving the door open for speculation on her potential be a conqueror instead of a ruler, and I think it could satisfactorily go either way. I've been speculating since last season that Dany might end up being the true big bad, but we're only seeing shades of that as of now.

Can you just restate that you don't like Emilia Clarke's acting, and that helps propel your anti-Daenerys bias.

[Jinx]

Lol. Do I really need to restate that I don't like Emilia Clarke's acting? Have I not stated that enough?

Tbf, she was extremely charming this episode. She does happy SO much better than strong/intimidating/distraught.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Lol. Do I really need to restate that I don't like Emilia Clarke's acting? Have I not stated that enough?

No you've been very subtle

[Jinx]

Lol. Do I really need to restate that I don't like Emilia Clarke's acting? Have I not stated that enough?

No you've been very subtle

Just like Emilia Clarke's acting!

badum tish

[Psychotic]

This isn't anything new for Daenerys. She was a complete shit to everyone in Meereen and bullied, threatened and ultimately destroyed them with her dragons. I know nobody really gave a shit because they were all Bad Guys (even Hizdahr who was actually a pretty decent dude all things considered but nah fuck him) and we just wanted Daenerys to come to Westeros already but this is who she is. You can't suddenly be all shocked that she's being a twatbucket to the Good Guys now too.

Wasn't last season, where she spent a whole episode alternating between threatening Jon and invoking the Targaryen name at him enough of a hint? Or what she did to the Tarlys despite being repeatedly advised not to do so?

[Bubba]

Agreed. She doesn't have a personality suited to ruling and her actions over 7 seasons bear that out. Saying that, I don't think Jon's naivety makes him a suitable candidate either. I think the show will inevitable play it safe though and have one or the other.

Erm, not to poke a sleeping Drogon here... but I don't actually think Emelia Clarke is a bad actor! Don't get me wrong, she's not gonna win any awards and she's outshone by plenty of other characters due to the general standard of acting being extremely high. She gets far too much s*** though for being terrible when in reality she's just average.

[Jinx]

Harry Strickland/Faegon/Real Aegon is going to come in at the final hour and take his throne. And tell both Dany and Jon to shut the fuck up.

I used to think that Jon not wanting to made him a good leader. And in some ways it does--he considers every decision carefully and does what he really thinks is the best option. Instead of more power-hungry people who don't care who their decisions affect, or assume that they're right simply because they're the ones doing it. But him giving up his crown and the trust of a region of people who have dealt with a lot of brutality over the last decade simply because he didn't want to rule anymore was a pretty terrible thing to do, honestly.

Also, do you think we'll see any of Meereen this season? Once the White Walkers are defeated and the final act between Jon and Dany plays out? I'd like to see how absolutely badly Daario is fucking things up across the Narrow Sea. It'll probably be a dropped plotline, though.

[Bubba]

Yeah, I doubt we'll see any more of Meereen. It would be interesting to see what happened but I think the most we'll get is a 2-3 second shot during a montage as Jon and Dany embark on a year-long parade across the entirety of Essos.

Also, seeing as no-one major died during the first episode, could I still submit some predictions? I've actually run the one at my office so already have all my answers prepared :-)

[Jinx]

If you used the list I provided, sure, I'm okay with you hopping in now. Or anyone else if they'd like, but I absolutely will not take any more predictions after this week.

[Bubba]

Brill, I'll get them sent over in a jiffy :)

Didn't realize there was a prize involved. I'm only playing for pride anyway as I don't have a Steam account.

[Jinx]

I actually have another prize in mind for the winner.

[Shaibana]

Goodafternoon fella's ... yes, its me.. i have returned...
.... to post GoT meme's .
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Game of Phones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=131&v=e4-R3JvGdJs

Anyway: solid opener for this season in my opinion.
i cried a little when the Dragons got their introduction.

[Jinx]

Just coming here to smugly say the title to this thread is technically incorrect. :shobon:

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[Shaibana]

na-ah, thats a mammoth
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[Jinx]

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[Loony BoB]

Well, I wasn't gonna say what was in the trailer. Are we marking trailer stuff under spoiler warnings, or nah?
Yes please! Edited the post you were responding to.

[Jinx]

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[Shaibana]

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[Jinx]

TODAY IS THE DAY

[Night Fury]

The first episode was okay. It's nice to have GoT back on the box again, even if it is very predictable these days.

[The Captain]

I won't get into death predictions since I missed that boat but I'll make a couple of plot predictions:

I think Cersei slept with Euron so that if she has that baby, she can claim it's from him and NOT from Jamie, at least in public. She's already fully hated by most of the world. Saying she had ANOTHER incest baby will probably cause what's left of KL to tear down the castle.

The Hound is definitely burning down The Mountain, in a poetic end to the Zombie.

Something tells me Bronn may end up killing Jamie "Only I get to kill ya" but sparing Tyrion and only taking half of the coin. Leaves half for the "half-man". Or in the end he saves the Lannister brothers from some other Cersei plot.

Dany is going to try to go full Mad Queen, especially when she finds out Jon has a better claim than her. I wonder how the reveal happens about his background? Something tells me Jon won't just tell her right away, but maybe it gets revealed when the Dragons listen to his commands over hers? Also, is Rheagal now bonded with Jon because he flew on him?

I think The Night King is after Bran, either because they are the same or because Bran is the only one who knows how to restore the peace. However, not sure Bran lives to figure this all out.

I also don't think Arya makes it to the end but Sansa almost certainly does. She may end up ruling in the end because she has taken all the lessons from everyone: Cersei, Littlefinger, the Tyrells, Tyrion, The Starks and found the right amount of steel with honor.

The entire Night's King plot is wrapped up by episode 4 and Cersei makes it all the way to the end only to die when she thinks she has achieved ultimate victory. She has always been the best villain of the series so she needs to have one final moment.

By the end of the series, all the magic (Jon/Beric, The Dragons, the WW, Bran) will have ceased to be as the breaking of the wheel means that destiny is firmly in the hands of humans. Also, the show will end on some sort of easter egg that ties into the new prequel show, either involving Bran's time traveling or something that lays the groundwork for the next plot.

Time to sit back and enjoy!

Take care all.

[Jinx]

Freya has to be splooshing. She got her wish! Although seeing Maisie Williams naked felt wrong.

I knew the moment Sansa and Theon saw each other they were pushing the romance angle with them. And honestly? I kind of love it. After everything they went through together, after everything she went through at the hands of men who hurt her...idk. I'm digging this.

I love, love, LOVED the scenes of the gang drinking in front of the fire. They were "pointless" scenes, but definitely made me just love them all. Jaime, Davos, and Tormund are three of my top faves (really, I ranked them in a 'name your 5 top faves' thing last week with some friends), and having them all together felt so loving. And seeing these people put aside their differences and just enjoy these last moments together. Also, Tyrion pouring Pod's cup to full hit home in a weird way, because it reminded me of the first time I got drunk. My mom told my stepdad to pour me half drinks, but he did the same thing Tyrion did in secret. Idk. A weird, but touching moment. Don't @ me.

Sam and Gilly looking at each other over a sleeping Little Sam. Beautiful.

Seeing Dany eat her pie, though? *chef kiss* Best part of the whole damn thing.

Honestly, I fucking loved this episode. I'm probably a normie for loving it, but it did what they meant to do: emotionally manipulate the shit out of me so I can see the people I love be destroyed (either by death, or by breaking hearts) next week.

[Jinx]

Just noticed the thread title: v v legit. Absolutely why he got those ladies for free.

[Freya]

I yelled at the tv "I fucking called it!" my mom got mad at me for cussing (she's joined our viewing party) and then she acted all awkward but yeah it was a little awkward because we saw that character grow up but i'm happy that ship panned out.

Yeah and Sansa being nice to Dany and Dany starting to bond until Sansa was like "but the north, yo?" Then jon telling her she's not the heir and she starts to try to rationalize it away.

I also adored all the little hang out scenes.

I'm also kind of there for the Sansa and Theon thing... kinda. At least as close friends if anything. They suffered some major trauma together.

Bran being the reason they're all gonna die is so shitty. I'll think more about that implication of it all in the next few days I'm sure.

[Jinx]

because of the i m p l i c a t i o n

[Freya]

I'm still holding on to the theory that it's fucking stupid to put people in the crypts when the army coming for you raises the dead.

[Jinx]

girl, i'm not disagreeing with you on THAT one

but that little girl with the face blotch and the soup will protect all of them. it's gonna be okay.

[Jinx]

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[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Ghost sighting :monocle:

When all this is over Pod needs to open up a brothel called the "Song and Dong".

[Psychotic]

I, for one, am outraged that we saw some Arya sideboob as part of a sex scene. I shall be writing to HBO at once to tell them she should engage in more appropriate behaviour such as murder. Sexual intercourse? Sinful! Butchering a man's family and forcing him to eat them in a pie? Wholesome!

Pod :3: hell that whole fireside chat :3: it reminded me of Mass Effect 3's citadel DLC and was a nice little sign off for our characters.

Next episode... oh gosh. This is going to be brutal.

[Freya]

Oh yeah sam better be prepared with her death pool. We dont know how many of those characters we're about to lose

[Jinx]

I had lots of GoT dreams last night, and now I'm convinced Gilly will die. :(

[Psychotic]

Yep! It's gonna be a slobberknocker!

Beric is surely going down and he's my #1 guaranteed death in the Battle of Winterfell. I think Jorah, Grey Worm and Brienne all had their death sentences signed in that episode. Possibly Sam too. I don't know what else they can do with Sam - he's passed Heartsbane on, learned the truth about his own family while telling Jon about his and reunited with his brothers. I'm also nervous for Pod, Tormund, The Hound and Davos, all of whom had nice little story moments.

For some stupid reason I put Little Sam to die in the pool and I have no idea why I did that. No way does he die! But I guess if he dies, this is the time for it.
I had lots of GoT dreams last night, and now I'm convinced Gilly will die. :(If she does, then Sam and Little Sam will live.

[Jinx]

Of the three, I see Gilly dying, and Sam claiming Little Sam as his true heir (only Sam's closest friends really know it's not true; if he helps fight the WW, who's going to be :bou::bou::bou::bou: enough to raise a stink?)--OR, Dany, in a moment of repentance for wiping out the rest of his house, legitimizes Little Sam. And then, since the Night's Watch will disband if the White Walkers no longer exist and everyone's friends with the wildlings, will claim his birthright on Horn Hill. If anyone goes, it's her.

I actually put down thinking Grey Worm will die, but I'm with freefolk: I think Missandei is going to die, and Grey Worm is going to fufill their dream of returning to Naath. Except he's going to take her to be buried in sight of the beaches, and protect her people, like he said he would.

Sidenote: I'm tired of people talking about Hannah Murray (Gilly's) weight gain. I'm also tired of people saying she might be pregnant, and others responding that women don't gain weight in their face during pregnancy. They really do. If you've ever seen a pregnant woman in real life, you might recognize this possibility. In any case, it's smurfing boring.

[Aulayna]

Would've been smurfing hilarious if during the dramatic slow-mo zooming out of Tyrion looking over the ramparts at the end, that a spear or arrow just flew in and hit in square in the forehead.

[Night Fury]

I enjoyed this episode more than the last.

I predict some people will die next week.

[Psychotic]

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Feels? Feels.

[Jinx]

book readers right now tho

*thinking emoji*

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

The Hound is 100% safe next week.

They've already sold me a ticket to the Cleganebowl :grover:

[The Captain]

I really think that once again, the underrated MVP of this series remains Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. His reactions, first at Bran during the trial and then during the entire knighting sequence were just second to none and he always carries an added weight with him, where you can feel the history of his character with him at all times.

There's NO way he dies yet. Same thing with The Hound. Both still have unfinished business with their families.

Other than Jon, Dany and Sansa though? It's all up for grabs. My real question is, does everything with The Night King get resolved by the end of the next episode? And the last 3 are about figuring out Cersei? That would be very interesting after all this build-up.

Now all the chess pieces are in place, let's see where they end up.

Take care all.

[Jinx]

I love NCW, but I wouldn't say he's in any way underrated when all over the internet he's the most praised actor from the show.

[The Captain]

That's not the same internet I've seen which always seems to say it's Dinklage, and to be fair, the two of them along with Lena Headey make for by far the most interesting trio on the show. Still, how has he NOT won an Emmy yet? That bathtub scene several years ago alone deserved it. The only other scene I've seen in recent years that was so obvious in its overwhelming brilliance was the scene in the first season of Better Call Saul where Mike finally tells his backstory.

Take care all.

[Jinx]

All I see people say is how kind of bland Dinklage actually is (disagree), and that is accent is horrible (hard agree). :lol:

[The Captain]

All I see people say is how kind of bland Dinklage actually is (disagree), and that is accent is horrible (hard agree). :lol:

I'd still give worst accent (in terms of consistency at least) to Littlefinger.

One other question, can Wights be created if they don't have heads? Kinda, sorta thinking that might come into play if the certain characters are brought back in the Winterfell Crypts.

Take care all.

[Freya]

Alfie Allen. Dude sells theon. He has done an amazing job with him and no one ever mentions him
He's always overlooked but he has played the role so fabulously.

[Bubba]

Agreed, Alfie Allen has done an amazing job with Theon. I'm not convinced about a potential romance with Sansa though. They grew up together and while not related by blood, still shared a brother/sister style relationship, I feel. Not that it matters in GoT, I suppose! But Theon also betrayed Robb, beheaded Rodrik Cassel (at least it was clean though :stare:), burnt a couple of local farm boys. Oh, and he also watched Sansa get raped and beaten.

Even if it was a possibility, he's about to die horribly protecting Bran... and as much as he's tried to earn redemption, he's committed far too many atrocities to deserve to live.

[Jinx]

Even if it was a possibility, he's about to die horribly protecting Bran... and as much as he's tried to earn redemption, he's committed far too many atrocities to deserve to live.

I actually completely disagree with you on this. I hate the idea someone can only achieve redemption through death.

[Bubba]

Even if it was a possibility, he's about to die horribly protecting Bran... and as much as he's tried to earn redemption, he's committed far too many atrocities to deserve to live.

I actually completely disagree with you on this. I hate the idea someone can only achieve redemption through death.

I never said he would earn redemption through death. My point is, no matter what he does from now he can't be forgiven. My only hope now for Theon is that he does as much good as possible before he deservedly dies.

[Jinx]

Even if it was a possibility, he's about to die horribly protecting Bran... and as much as he's tried to earn redemption, he's committed far too many atrocities to deserve to live.

I actually completely disagree with you on this. I hate the idea someone can only achieve redemption through death.

I never said he would earn redemption through death. My point is, no matter what he does from now he can't be forgiven. My only hope now for Theon is that he does as much good as possible before he deservedly dies.

He's suffered more than any other singular character in the entire show. And Ramsay came into his life as a result of his actions. And has shown genuine repentance and has devoted his life to doing good. He has and can be forgiven.

[Bubba]

Even if it was a possibility, he's about to die horribly protecting Bran... and as much as he's tried to earn redemption, he's committed far too many atrocities to deserve to live.

I actually completely disagree with you on this. I hate the idea someone can only achieve redemption through death.

I never said he would earn redemption through death. My point is, no matter what he does from now he can't be forgiven. My only hope now for Theon is that he does as much good as possible before he deservedly dies.

He's suffered more than any other singular character in the entire show. And Ramsay came into his life as a result of his actions. And has shown genuine repentance and has devoted his life to doing good. He has and can be forgiven.

I'm sorry, I don't buy the whole "He's suffered more than any other character blah blah blah..." If hadn't been tortured by Ramsey, who knows what more evil s*** he would have done. Also, from what point in his life has he devoted himself to doing good? Was that before or after he left Yara to die at the hands of Euron?

I'm sure there are plenty of characters who can echo Jon and say "It's not my place to forgive you for all of it. But what I can, I do." Fair enough. But if you think he's done enough now to earn complete forgiveness for everything he has done then you have a very small memory.

[Jinx]

He left Yara out of fear, not malice. And then he rescued her. He's a fucked up individual with severe trauma.

I guess Jaime's completely beyond redemption as well. He attempted to murder Bran; his lack of success doesn't change the fact that he wanted to kill a child. He killed his cousin, who was little more than a boy. Attacked Ned in the street, with the intent to kill him.

Jon's evil; he betrayed the wildlings. Dany's killed innocents simply to wave her dick, and has allied herself with objectively evil people (Ellaria Sand, the Dothraki). Arya's a total psychopath. Yara had murdered and pillaged innocents, and those under her have raped them.

The line between good and bad in this show is really fucking thin.

[Bubba]

Whether he left Yara out of fear or malice, he still left her to die. Hardly devoting his life to doing good.


The line between good and bad in this show is really smurfing thin.

Yeah, I agree completely with this. It's what makes the characterization on this show so brilliantly rich. There are obvious levels to every character and their actions over eight series. We could argue about all the characters and whether they can be forgiven (though labelling Jon "evil" for betraying the wildlings is a stretch :lol:). In this instance though we're talking about Theon. I don't think there is any way his actions can be completely forgiven. If you feel that he has made up for all his wrongdoings on the show then I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

[Jinx]

You're probably right that we won't agree.

RE: Jon betraying the wildlings

They sent their strongest warriors ahead to secure the Wall because they knew White Walkers were coming. They've been hunted by the Night's Watch for thousands of years. They probably would have won had Jon not betrayed them, which led to Stannis (granted, Jon had nothing to do with this) wiping out their army. A lot of innocent people who got left behind died because of those actions.

Jon eventually let them through the Wall and died for it, but let's not pretend that a ton of people didn't die because of his actions. The wildlings have done some troutty stuff, especially Tormund's (easily one of the biggest fan favorites) party, but they did it for a really good reason: they were terrified, and they knew the WW were coming, and a had already been attacked by them.

[Shaibana]

i dont know why but for some reason i dont really feel like discussing or speculating about GoT.
Maybe its because we are at the final season and i just want to let it all happen without further questions.

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[Bubba]

I'm not saying Jon is completely innocent by any stretch. His actions have indeed caused deaths. Uniting Northerners with the Wildlings though I don't think was possible without parties on either side dying. He definitely could have made better choices though and even admits that himself.

Theon: "Every step you take is the right step."
Jon: "It's not. It may seem that way from the outside, but I promise you, it's not true. I've done plenty of things that I regret.
Theon: "Not compared to me, you haven't."
Jon: "No, not compared to you."

He's as close to 'good' as you're going to get with this show though and far from evil.

[Jinx]

As close to good?

Brienne, Pod, and Davos would like a word.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

When you miss out on the giant tits story.

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[Jinx]

Dude, I bet Tormund and Robin are gonna have so much to talk about when they finally meet.

[Bubba]

As close to good?

Brienne, Pod, and Davos would like a word.

Considering how much Jon has been responsible for, absolutely. You can't really compare to three characters who for the majority have either been a) following orders or b) pledging their sword and loyalty to anyone who stood still long enough.

I do love all of them though :)

[Shaibana]

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[The Captain]

On the good and evil front, what is fascinating to me, though the show may not have enough time to explore it, is that GRRM was trying his best to expose and subvert all of the black and white character tropes that usually pop up in fantasy. The show has essentially done that with every main character though it does feel like the endgame is now building Jon up to be the reluctant king in the Aragorn vein. It almost feels too perfect which leads me to believe there is still one final twist of the knife to come.

Most every other surviving main character has gone through an arc:

Tyrion (Clever but overlooked to respected)
Dany (A child bride to a conquerer to possibly a tyrant)
Sansa (Naive to steely)
Jaime (Arrogant to humbled)
Theon (Same but to an even larger degree)
Bran (Though his remains the most mysterious arc)
Arya (Somewhat innocent to killer)
Sandor (Killer to a conscience)
Sam (Coward to Brave)
Cersei (Though hers is a bit harder to gauge. Her arc is she went from a pawn to becoming the most ruthless character on the show)

Yet Jon Snow started out honorable and has remained so throughout. He did of course (Several year spoiler) die for his honor but since coming back, seems more or less the same guy, though maybe a little more reluctant. About the only outcomes I would see that would work to subvert his character trope is to have him die again before achieving victory, to have him switch sides or to have him win but at such a cost that there is nothing left to rule. I'm very curious if the show is able to give him more shades of grey in the remaining episodes.

Take care all.

[Freya]

this behind the scenes of the last episode is great!

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[Scotty_ffgamer]

I hope I can one day catch up to this show soon. My wife doesn’t like the show, so I never even saw the last season. Not that she really stops me from watching, but it would be easier to find a chance to watch if she’d watch with me. Wouldn’t be as bad if the books were finished.

I am interested in seeing how I’ll feel about Theon when I watch. I feel like he’d be hard to redeem, but it sounds like they are swaying a good number of viewers to somewhat forgive him. Alfie Allen does some fantastic work with his character.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I'm sweating bullets for Ghost.

I love wolves, and this show has a really bad problem of reminding you direwolves exist right before killing them or making them disappear forever.

[Psychotic]

And they like to symbolically kill them when a character "stops" being a Stark e.g. Sansa selling out her family on the Kingsroad and Bran becoming the Three Eyed Raven. Rise, Aegon Targaryen...

[Loony BoB]

If that's the case, surely Arya's direwolf would have died when she declared herself no one. I know in her heart she's still a Stark, but so is Jon - and by blood, too, even if not by name.

[Freya]

I am convinced Tormund will not die. I was thinking about it and there are like NO wildlings left. He's kind of the last representation of them so if they kill him, they have no wildling representation. So I think he'll live.

[Bubba]

I am convinced Tormund will not die. I was thinking about it and there are like NO wildlings left. He's kind of the last representation of them so if they kill him, they have no wildling representation. So I think he'll live.

He has to... and Brienne.

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[Jinx]

I am convinced Tormund will not die. I was thinking about it and there are like NO wildlings left. He's kind of the last representation of them so if they kill him, they have no wildling representation. So I think he'll live.

Yeah, the Dothraki are about to get decimated because of this. We don't really have a known Dothraki representative. Also, it's cold af.

[The Captain]

It really is so strange how they've sidelined the direwolves. I wonder if they just want to leave all of that to the books, which I'm assuming will be the mechanism for Jon's POV until he is brought back if GRRM ever finishes. Plus, is Ghost jealous that Jon has a dragon now too?

Heard a great comparison on a podcast about The Simpsons' McBain factor a lot of these character's have, essentially that when you start to plan your happily ever after, you're as good as dead. Or when you've reached an endpoint to your arc. Fits so many characters: Theon, Tormund, Brienne, Pod, Grey Worm, Gendry, Jorah, Beric, Edd, Sam, Bran, even Jaime, Tyrion and Sansa. Man, this week is going to be a bloodbath.

Really, who still has unfinished business on the show? Jon and Dany obviously. The Hound. Maybe Davos and Melisandre? Arya and Cersei? Tyrion, Jaime and Cersei? I guess Yara and Euron?

Speaking of, what did we make of that little kid with greyscale who wants to defend the Crypt? Could THAT be Melisandre in disguise?

I'm starting to wonder now, will we see any of our heroes die and come back as wights? That might make for a REALLY interesting last few episodes and could also help them finish out their contracts.

Take care all.

[Freya]

Speaking of, what did we make of that little kid with greyscale who wants to defend the Crypt? Could THAT be Melisandre in disguise?


No. It was just a little girl with a scare who reminded him of Shireen. Even her music came on.

[Jinx]

Dadvos needs to find a lady love and have more babies. He needs to have a little girl named Shireen.

EDIT: OR just adopt this orphan girl with the scar on her face.

[Psychotic]

Dadvos needs to find a lady love and have more babies. He needs to have a little girl named Shireen.

EDIT: OR just adopt this orphan girl with the scar on her face.yes nothing bad could possibly happen to this child whose mission is to guard The Safest Place In Winterfell™

Although I guess he could go for an ending to Shaun of the Dead type deal with her.

[Jinx]

Dadvos needs to find a lady love and have more babies. He needs to have a little girl named Shireen.

EDIT: OR just adopt this orphan girl with the scar on her face.yes nothing bad could possibly happen to this child whose mission is to guard The Safest Place In Winterfell™

Although I guess he could go for an ending to Shaun of the Dead type deal with her.

NOTHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO EITHER OF THEM, YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTHh

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

If that's the case, surely Arya's direwolf would have died when she declared herself no one. I know in her heart she's still a Stark, but so is Jon - and by blood, too, even if not by name.

:stare:


this show has a really bad problem of reminding you direwolves exist right before killing them or making them disappear forever.

Though tbf who knows what the next 4 episodes will bring. I imagine we're done with direwolves except for Ghost. But I'd be happy to be wrong about that.

[Psychotic]

If that's the case, surely Arya's direwolf would have died when she declared herself no one. I know in her heart she's still a Stark, but so is Jon - and by blood, too, even if not by name.That's the point, though. She failed in her training as a Faceless Man because she couldn't become no one. She couldn't let go of her family, or Needle, or her list.

Though it probably just came across that the Waif wanted to kill her because she's a psycho rather than her failure to let go. Braavos was the worst written part of the show. Maybe excluding Dorne.

[Loony BoB]

Yeah, I just don't get how she can fail to become no one and fail her training when in reality she's seemingly got all the perks with none of the drawbacks. Doesn't sound like failure. But I get what you mean.

[Psychotic]

Perhaps it's like saying you have all the martial arts skills of a Shaolin monk and can easily destroy someone in a fistfight, but you don't buy into the important concept of buddhism itself. Instead of believing in peace and only using these skills for self-defence, you wander around wrecking everyone on your hitlist.

Admittedly the Faceless Men do not believe in inner peace but the analogy is that it is a deeply religious organisation. Arya isn't part of their order nor does she subscribe to their beliefs, even if she has their skills.

[Loony BoB]

Yeah, all the pros and none of the cons. Well, for Arya, at least.

[Freya]

The soundtrack with all the random artists is out. Here's The weeknd, Tavis Scott, and SZA's song Power is Power

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Here's the whole playlist on spotify. (https://open.spotify.com/user/columbiarecords_us/playlist/4ACJRJBwNSVNqP0e3N9Aod?si=CxSJDS-jSR2ME7aL1DU2OQ) Artist's like Florence's rendition of Jenny of Oldstone, Ellie Goulding, X Ambassadors, Lumineers, and Maren Morris (I'm keen on her song Kingdom of One)

[Jinx]

I'M GETTING NERVOUS

[Jinx]

Friendly reminder our death pool can be found here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xft9Dto8vsnOB6F47V_2q5IoO-X9XDrkIfVt_gBkhHg/edit?usp=sharing).

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[Jinx]

I had a dream last night that Bronn and Jaime fought a wight Khal Drogo.

Obviously not happening, but it was kind of a scary dream.

[Psychotic]

But who won?!

[Jinx]

I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER

[Slothy]

I really wouldn't bet against an undead aquaman myself.

[Jinx]

There's no way it can happen, but holy shit, the undead Dothraki are going to be terrifying when they happen.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

See you on the other side.

[Freya]

I managed to pick up a chest infection this weekend and so I missed out on seeing endgame but jokes on you, you stupid infection, I can watch game of thrones from home!

I'm coughing so much and I think only jinx will be able to relate but sometimes when your chest gets so full of gunk, you, take a deep breath out and it sound super ragged. I call it my monster noise. So in my delirium from lack of oxygen, I've been monster nosing and terrifying all my pets and dalton. Been calling my self a wight and that winter has come.

My household hadnt been thrilled

[Jinx]

I managed to pick up a chest infection this weekend and so I missed out on seeing endgame but jokes on you, you stupid infection, I can watch game of thrones from home!

I'm coughing so much and I think only jinx will be able to relate but sometimes when your chest gets so full of gunk, you, take a deep breath out and it sound super ragged. I call it my monster noise. So in my delirium from lack of oxygen, I've been monster nosing and terrifying all my pets and dalton. Been calling my self a wight and that winter has come.

My household hadnt been thrilled

Omg, you poor thing. :heart: Well, you're definitely getting into the spirit of the thing, and I admire your dedication.

[Jinx]

RIP Lyanna Mormont. You died as you lived--a total smurfing bad ass.

Losing Jorah is going to be a huge morale blow to Dany. But I think she's definitely going to prove her merit to the North. I've never stanned for her, I still don't, but I won't say she didn't fight for them. AND LOST ANOTHER DRAGON FOR THEM. And you know what--I'll give Emilia Clarke a nod, finally. Her moment holding Jorah as he died was good. He's been her truest friend, and the only person who has stood by her from the very beginning. When she finds out Missandei and Grey Worm (her other two friends) are planning on leaving her, I don't think she's going to be very happy.

I'm glad Pod pulled through. I was for sure he'd die (especially because I read a "leak" on freefolk that he was eating it).

The moment between Sansa and Tyrion was beautifully acted.

WAS NOT expecting Arya to kill the Night King. Was really hoping it'd be Jaime and he'd finally wear the name Kingslayer with pride. Still--for someone saying that I didn't care if she died this episode, that little mothersmurfer pulled it out.

I wish we still knew more about the Night King's motives. I do feel like this ending was super unsatisfying.

I was expecting more of a bloodbath, but I have high hopes for later episodes.

EDIT: A nod to the cinematography. The juxtaposition between light and dark in the episode were beautiful. The one shot of the window down the hall in the dark with fire in the foreground. Dany and Jon above the storm where it's calm and serene and beautiful while knowing the chaos on the ground. Beric's Jesus on the cross pose with light shining down on him while he's ripped apart by zombies after saving Arya. v v good

[Jinx]

Death list updated. (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xft9Dto8vsnOB6F47V_2q5IoO-X9XDrkIfVt_gBkhHg/edit?usp=sharing)

Currently in the lead are Bubba, Kalevala, and Shauna with 1 incorrect guess each. Last place is Denmark with 4 incorrect guesses. Most of us really thought Lyanna was making it...anyways, this is only the beginning. The only person everyone correctly guessed dying so far has been Jorah.

[Freya]

That was a tense episode. The beginning with the dothraki getting fire to then just snuffing out. Eep.

And the music! That constant heartbeat like base drum, wowy.

When mel said to Arya what do we say to death, I was screaming that she was the one to go kill him.

The theon moment made me tear up. There was so much to unpack omg

[Denmark]

Last place is Denmark with 4 incorrect guesses.

rhaegal is alive, unless dany gave birth to another full grown dragon (https://youtu.be/ksTqLXLUvQ4?t=22)

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I think both dragons are still alive but hurt and whew that ending left me wanting to check on some people.


I am convinced Tormund will not die. I was thinking about it and there are like NO wildlings left. He's kind of the last representation of them so if they kill him, they have no wildling representation. So I think he'll live.

This was kind of my logic with putting Edd on my live list, even though we have Sam and whatnot, but in hindsight it was not a good idea. You don't need a night's watch on the wall if there's nothing beyond the wall. :grover:

[Jinx]

Yeah, Rhaegal's alive. My bad, and I will fix the list tomorrow.

[Psychotic]

The most intense episode of Game of Thrones. I was going to use the word "dreadful" but more in the sense that it filled me with dread and horror. Some wonderful shots like the Dothraki swords going out and the music filled me with awe. I will definitely need to rewatch this one a couple of times with a clearer head and less anxiety in my chest! Excellent television.

While the episode itself was excellent and I cannot fault it, I'm a little bit "Hmm" about the implication to the wider plot. What was the point of the Night King, White Walkers and the Army of the Dead? Like, that was it? Oof, that was an adventure, some C-Tier and B-Tier characters died, Azor Ahai was Arya all along... and now that's all done and dusted, back to the real Game of Thrones! Oh. Okay. I mean, yeah. But... still? Surely there was more to it?

[Freya]

Yeah, what was bran even doing the whole time?

[Jinx]

The more I think about this episode, the angrier I get tbqh. I don't love the way the resolved (?) the White Walker plot. Talk about anticlimactic.

However, I haven't completely made up my mind yet, as the directors? showrunners? Have said e3-e5 really just feel like one continuous episode, so I'll see what happens next week.

Fwiw, I was EXTREMELY hype in the moment, and I will always appreciate it for that. But admittedly, I'm looking a bit less forward to next week.

BUT HEY MY GIRL CERSEI IS THE FINAL BOSS AND I'LL ADMIT THAT'S KIND OF FUCKING COOL